Sephiroth Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 I know the talk has been all about the QBs so far, but two guys I'd be ecstatic to see on the team are these two guys: Quinnen Williams: Last year I posted about how I didn't think Quentin Nelson was an actual human being because he was so immensely strong. I feel the same way about this guy, but on defense. I've watched film of this guy pushing around 300lb linemen like they were tub toys. He's not the most agile in the world, but he does have very good straight ahead speed and interior linemen usually don't have to stop on a dime anyway. I think you can get Aaron Donald type production out of him and he'd look great either as a pass-rushing NT or at DE in a 3-4 defense. Josh Allen - I originally watched some highlight-reel stuff of this guy and didn't see what the big deal was... every play was him flying untouched into the backfield... they were plays I could have made. I dug a little deeper and I think this kid could be along the lines of a Javon Kearse type. Very fast, fluid hips, able to dip and bend, strong hands to clasp onto ballcarriers. Uses his hands well to punch and disrupt at the line and disengage from blockers. Good change of direction and surprisingly decent in coverage. This kid has the length and size to play DE in a 4-3 but also the speed and flexibility to be a linebacker in a 3-4 alignment. I realize it's unlikely that either of these guys will be there at 6, but if a few teams fall in love with Haskins and Murray, maybe we'll get lucky and one of the two falls in our laps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 That would be the best possible outcome. And don't forget Nick Bosa too, he's another guy that will go early. Fingers crossed that we get leapfrogged on the QBs and other teams ahead draft for need and let one of those three guys slide.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted February 27, 2019 Author Share Posted February 27, 2019 That would be the best possible outcome. And don't forget Nick Bosa too, he's another guy that will go early. Fingers crossed that we get leapfrogged on the QBs and other teams ahead draft for need and let one of those three guys slide.... I'm actually not high on Bosa. We've had enough injury problems to take a chance on a guy that missed almost the whole 2018 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 I'm actually not high on Bosa. We've had enough injury problems to take a chance on a guy that missed almost the whole 2018 season. as far as i know, he just shut it down to get ready for the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted February 27, 2019 Author Share Posted February 27, 2019 as far as i know, he just shut it down to get ready for the draft. That was back in September. We already have a DE that's shut down by September. Not interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 That was back in September. We already have a DE that's shut down by September. Not interested. yeah i meant he had no desire to play again for zero pay and risk injury that would harm his draft position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted February 27, 2019 Author Share Posted February 27, 2019 yeah i meant he had no desire to play again for zero pay and risk injury that would harm his draft position. Yeah I can't blame him, I think most of us would do the same thing, but I couldn't in good confidence draft him. His brother is constantly injured all the time too and the kid just missed basically his entire season with an injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Both Murray and Haskins measured big at the combine. 5'10", 207 for Murray, so he'll be long gone before 6. I've read some bad reviews on his field vision though, so maybe we'll dodge a bullet there. Lock had small hands, I think he's going to drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 This guy will be as good or better then Kittle...who was the best TE in the 17 draft .......and he plays with a bigger edge to him. https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/t-j-hockenson-the-better-iowa-te-prospect/ C. Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 This guy will be as good or better then Kittle...who was the best TE in the 17 draft .......and he plays with a bigger edge to him. C. Wagon I've seen him mocked in the top 10. Love to have him, not sure can afford to go TE with the deficiencies filling the trenches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 This guy will be as good or better then Kittle...who was the best TE in the 17 draft .......and he plays with a bigger edge to him. C. Wagon Two years ago the list I wanted was: Lamp Cunningham Perine Kittle Brantley We ended up with: Engram Tomlinson Webb Gallman Moss Honestly, while we hit on a few of those players, I'd rather we had drafted the guys I wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeMesiS Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Anyone else hearing a Russell Wilson to the Giants trade? Sounds pretty cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 They seem high on Jonah Williams, who was outperformed on the bench press by a couple RBs, so I dont know how I feel about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeMesiS Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 They seem high on Jonah Williams, who was outperformed on the bench press by a couple RBs, so I dont know how I feel about that. Greg little seems like a better fit for what we are trying build here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 They seem high on Jonah Williams, who was outperformed on the bench press by a couple RBs, so I dont know how I feel about that. what did he get, like 23 reps? Not a deal breaker, but for a shorter tackle I wanted to see him put it up more like 30 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Honestly if the Giants were to draft a QB, I'd rather Murray than Haskins at this point. I hope it's Josh Allen though, kid looks like a freak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Oh and Q Williams, but some freak miracle chance this kid isnt taken inside the top 5. The Giants should draft him, or take the trade from some team trying to get him so they end up paying a literal kings ransom of picks. He looks like Donald, except twice the size and stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted March 2, 2019 Author Share Posted March 2, 2019 Anyone else hearing a Russell Wilson to the Giants trade? Sounds pretty cool It's all over the news but I don't think it's happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 what did he get, like 23 reps? Not a deal breaker, but for a shorter tackle I wanted to see him put it up more like 30 times. Yeah I think 23. Saquon hammered out something like 29. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted March 3, 2019 Author Share Posted March 3, 2019 Lock had small hands, I think he's going to drop. Well if he doesn't pan out as a QB, he can always run for president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Well if he doesn't pan out as a QB, he can always run for president. Ha! I hear Lock has been the star of the QBs ever since. Pass on Haskins... Showed up to combine fat and slow. Over 5 in the 40, he's slower than freakin Eli! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Ha! I hear Lock has been the star of the QBs ever since. Pass on Haskins... Showed up to combine fat and slow. Over 5 in the 40, he's slower than freakin Eli! He was never a runner. Haskins probably had the best combine of all the QBs from a passing standpoint, which is what he is a pocket QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Pretty sure the Giants are going Defense. Shopping Vernon supports that. If anything, they'll trade for Carr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 He was never a runner. Haskins probably had the best combine of all the QBs from a passing standpoint, which is what he is a pocket QB. I knew he wasn't a runner.... I didn't know he was going to slack off leading up to the combine & draft. I don't think he's naturally a 5+ second 40 guy.... he looked better than that scrambling back in college.... its the work ethic that concerns me, not that he ran a 5 sec 40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 who's catching my eye? Every damn defensive lineman running today. OMG, I've never seen so many huge guys run under 4.7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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