RandolphScott Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Also, physically Eli looks great. Mentally hes fried. I just watched some clips from Brian Baldinger on Twitter. Its quite possible our offensive line is WORSE than last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandolphScott Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 And if Gettleman allows Shurmur to play Alex Tanney, then John Mara needs to step in and fire both of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I bet you have an aunt who knew the cousin of some girl who cut Farrah Fawcetts hair! I do! In all seriousness, I get what youre saying. However, Fitzpatrick has never played as poorly as Manning is playing right now. And hes still been benched for his close to this bad performances. At what point does Mannings pedigree stop preventing him from being benched? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I do! In all seriousness, I get what youre saying. However, Fitzpatrick has never played as poorly as Manning is playing right now. And hes still been benched for his close to this bad performances. At what point does Mannings pedigree stop preventing him from being benched? Prdigree? I stated before what Manning has meant to the Giants organization and Giants fans... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandolphScott Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Fitz def has. He plays really well up until he gets a huge deal. His play in the last week in 2015 was the sole reason Jets missed the playoffs. Dude threw like 5 interceptions and gagged away the game for them. Playing Fitz wouldn’t do anything and it won’t ignite a fan base. Half of our fan base thinks it’s all Eli who’s to blame. Of course he shoulders some of the blame but it’s not all his fault. The last INT yesterday was a huge “fuck it” throw and that was after Solder got beat twice on consecutive plays. We haven’t been able to block a simple stunt since 2015. Who’s fault is this?!? Play Lauletta. See what he has. Play Eli a few snaps in week 17 and hope he retired and doesn’t wear another jersey. Retire 10 in 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandolphScott Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Prdigree? I stated before what Manning has meant to the Giants organization and Giants fans... It’s not 2011 anymore. Eli doesn’t have the magic anymore, sadly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Its not 2011 anymore. Eli doesnt have the magic anymore, sadly Im not disagreeing. I think Eli himself knows he doesnt have it anymore. My point was that the man earned his stripes and deserves a dignified exit on his terms. Fuck Im surprised hes still playing behind that offensive line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandolphScott Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Eh, he’s earned it but doesn’t deserve it, sadly You can’t run a team on decisions from the heart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Eh, hes earned it but doesnt deserve it, sadly You cant run a team on decisions from the heart Right now as a fan with a ton of appreciation for what Manning has been to us since we drafted him... not just the wins or losses or the trophies or the fact that hes never missed a game but also the way hes carried himself as one of if not the classiest of players, I dont want to see him benched because Reese failed to shore up the Oline.... https://es.pn/2zhhdwq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandolphScott Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 You can’t continue to play him, that would be assaine. You have weird football takes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 And if Gettleman allows Shurmur to play Alex Tanney, then John Mara needs to step in and fire both of them.Mara basically inherited our last two Super Bowl victories. Since then, he fired Coughlin and kept Jerry Reese and Mc Adoo, and followed that up by hiring Gettleman and Shurmur. It's too early to make judgements about the latter but I'd say their results are mixed so far if I'm being generous. In the meantime, he flubbed the hand off from Eli to Webb last year and ended up looking like a total ass, every offseason he makes an "uncharacteristic speech criticizing the team" and has somehow managed to turn the most coveted ticket in all of sports into a 1/3 empty stadium each weekend. I think there's a good case for John Mara to be fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Mara basically inherited our last two Super Bowl victories. Since then, he's fired Coughlin and then kept Jerry Reese and Mc Adoo, and followed that up by hiring Gettleman and Shurmur. It's too early to make judgements about the latter but I'd say their results are mixed if I'm being generous. In the meantime, he flubbed the hand off from Eli to Webb last year and ended up looking like a total ass, every offseason he makes an "uncharacteristic speech criticizing the team" and has somehow managed to turn the most coveted ticket in all of sports into a 1/3 empty stadium each weekend. I think there's a good case for John Mara to be fired. Hes total garbage. I wonder if him, James Dolan and the Wilpons hang out together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Yeah I mean... he's not Jerry Jones or Dan Snyder bad, but he's definitely not his old man. It doesn't seem like the NY media has figured that out yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 You cant continue to play him, that would be assaine. You have weird football takes A lot of Giants fans do. I guess it comes from years of having mediocre QBs...any other team but the Giants and probably any other QB other than Manning would be criticized for the sheer indeciveness and lack of direction. I am interested to see how San Diego handles Rivers and Pittsburgh handles Big Ben. I honestly think both players will take the decision out of their teams hands. Maybe Manning will, too. But its too late. Way too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Heres a weird take- last year was the best QB draft in a long time. Giants fortuitously picked 2nd and chose a RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandolphScott Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Heres a weird take- last year was the best QB draft in a long time. Giants fortuitously picked 2nd and chose a RB. Thats not weird. Gettleman said if you have to make yourself fall in love with a pick, youll never love the pick. I dont have an issue with Barkley being the pick at 2. Hes a fucking stud. He might be the best offensive weapon the Giants have ever had. Regardless, I would have taken Darnold but I get where he is coming from. I also never bought into the idea that this was a win now team. Giants didnt resign Pugh or Richburg and they traded JPP, cut DRC and a bunch of other players. This team was rotten to the core. Was dumb to roll with Eli? Probably, but imagine Darnold behind this line? Yikes. He can barely hold on with the Jets right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Thats not weird. Gettleman said if you have to make yourself fall in love with a pick, youll never love the pick. I dont have an issue with Barkley being the pick at 2. Hes a fucking stud. He might be the best offensive weapon the Giants have ever had. Regardless, I would have taken Darnold but I get where he is coming from. I also never bought into the idea that this was a win now team. Giants didnt resign Pugh or Richburg and they traded JPP, cut DRC and a bunch of other players. This team was rotten to the core. Was dumb to roll with Eli? Probably, but imagine Darnold behind this line? Yikes. He can barely hold on with the Jets right now If the Giants had drafted Darnold, hed be the bench right now.... The thought process of the front office was simple in hindsight.... Barkley was the best player in the draft... a rookie qb wouldnt provide immediate help while a RB would.... They thought Eli can still play and proceeded to surround him with better players... that part aside from Barkley and Hernandez backfired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 There’s not enough value in a RB at #2- you guys know that from fantasy. it’s a mistake this franchise will pay dearly for. If they didn’t want Darnold, they take the treasutrove of picks that the jets gave the colts and start fixing the OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Theres not enough value in a RB at #2- you guys know that from fantasy. its a mistake this franchise will pay dearly for. If they didnt want Darnold, they take the treasutrove of picks that the jets gave the colts and start fixing the OL. Maybe from Madden, man, but from fantasy, I would always pick an RB at #2... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 The idea is that a rb will be done in 8 years when a qb will be in his prime. For a team 15 months removed from 11-5, that still believed in their qb, that had a lot of money invested in defensive players in their prime, and thinks they just got snakebit by injuries and a bad coach losing the locker room, I can see where adding a missing piece type player like Barkley is an appealing option. Even if they were right about all those things, the plan was horrible. Even if Eli still had it the line was going to take us to 8 wins at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Yeah. And how did no one notice the line fucking sucked? How does a QB guy like Shurmur not know that Manning was done heading into the season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Yeah. And how did no one notice the line fucking sucked? How does a QB guy like Shurmur not know that Manning was done heading into the season? because he's amazing in practice ...when he can't get hit That's been a comment in the past when free agents join the team, I think it was Barwin this season that commented that he was surprised just how good Eli was in practice (at that point, it was early in training camp). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Saquon Barkley is the best player in the draft and we got him. It was absolutely the correct call.I know we didnt get a qb but our priority now is clearly oline first and then qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 The idea is that a rb will be done in 8 years when a qb will be in his prime. For a team 15 months removed from 11-5, that still believed in their qb, that had a lot of money invested in defensive players in their prime, and thinks they just got snakebit by injuries and a bad coach losing the locker room, I can see where adding a missing piece type player like Barkley is an appealing option. Even if they were right about all those things, the plan was horrible. Even if Eli still had it the line was going to take us to 8 wins at best. If they really thought that, they're incompetent. I think it is more that they thought Barkley gets the fans excited- and maybe with all the skill players on offense, we didn't need a line. I love Barkley, but he may be done by the time we're contenders again- especially if this front office is as awful as they are showing to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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