UK-Giantsfan Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 great move by DG ....will save us a huge amount of $ in the long run. thanks for 1 great year JPP really liking the CAP relief here and a 3rd round pick this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I thought you were fucking Yemeni? C. Wgaon Why you care who he's fucking? That kinda makes you.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Not bothered at all by this. JPP is useless for 3/4 of the season. Or hes injured Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 With two thirds, we could possibly grab the next Jayron Hosely AND the next Jerell Jernigan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayD Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I get wanting out of this contract, but it does leave a big hole. Anyone think this effects the first pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 With two thirds, we could possibly grab the next Jayron Hosely AND the next Jerell Jernigan. Speaking of Reese's consistent failures in the 3rd round, Bromley has yet to be signed. Looks like he's yet another failure soon to be out of the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Well they also got a 4th in return. Plus this logic doesnt make sense because they would throw a third round pick at the guy they would also throw a second round pick at him because? He's just that good? JPP was dead in the water, we should just be lucky they were able to trade for him instead of him being cut or sitting on the bench most of the year. I would have made this trade work with the intention of getting that 2nd rounder. He isnt the player he was but motivated he can still be disruptive so the bucs are getting some value here. I would throw in next years third if it got us their 2nd. Giants need to be getting as many guys in the top 50 as possible and recent history shows we have gotten way more value in 1 and 2 then we have in the rest of the draft by far. Getting good 2nd rounders is key. Anyway, hes gone. Never felt the same after the video of him humiliating prince and being a dick with the fireworks. He should have been a top ten player in the league for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Why you care who he's fucking? That kinda makes you.... You say that like its a bad thing Groc. C. Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I get wanting out of this contract, but it does leave a big hole. Anyone think this effects the first pick? Not necessarily we have Okwara & Wynn. Hope the idea isn't to fill it with Chubb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted March 22, 2018 Author Share Posted March 22, 2018 To me the question is more "what is Tampa Bay thinking?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman329 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 According to Sirius NFL Network, this leaves us with $15M in dead cap $$ next year. That's bad......but if this is setting the stage for Chubb, that's fucking awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I seriously doubt Chubb is their guy. And dont worry the 15 mil dead cap is for this year. Were between 1-2 mil over the cap right now with cuts still to come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeMesiS Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I seriously doubt Chubb is their guy. And dont worry the 15 mil dead cap is for this year. Were between 1-2 mil over the cap right now with cuts still to come This is why I doubt we will draft QB in the first. I doubt we ever have the cap space to do so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echochamber Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 This is why I doubt we will draft QB in the first. I doubt we ever have the cap space to do so $ amounts are locked in for picks. They can't negotiate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Yeah when I say we are 1-2 mil over the cap, that is already factoring in the rookie allotment money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman329 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 You sure that dead $$ is this year? Coulda sworn Bruce Murray and James Lofton, on Sirius, said the Giants actually save $2M this year but get hit with $15M dead money next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BronxRik Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 So long JPP, thanks for the memories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Loving Gettleman. If Reese was GM they would of given JPP a five year extension Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 You sure that dead $$ is this year? Coulda sworn Bruce Murray and James Lofton, on Sirius, said the Giants actually save $2M this year but get hit with $15M dead money next year. The giants gave him a 20 mil bonus that was spread out over 4 years at 5 mil per. They paid five last year and there was 15 mil remaining over the next 3 years. For this season his salary was 11.25, roster bonus 1 mil, and workout bonus 250k. Those items plus the 5 mil bonus for this year and his cap hit was 17.5 million had he stayed on the team. Now that hes traded, the total 15 mil remaining is accelerated into one year. So 17.5-15=2.5 mil savings on our 2018 cap. We save a tiny bit this year and a shitload the next two years (19.5 in 2019 and 17.5 in 2020) and pick up the 3rd rounder. Clears up future money for Beckham and (hopefully) Collins and gets us some immediate draft capital and very much needed cap savings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Also we restructured John Jerry. Hes only signed through this season now instead of next season and we shaved off about 500k from his cap hit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Pretty much solidifies us going QB in the 1st round. This is Eli's last year and next year we'll have loads of cap space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 So long JPP, thanks for the memories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK-Giantsfan Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 The giants gave him a 20 mil bonus that was spread out over 4 years at 5 mil per. They paid five last year and there was 15 mil remaining over the next 3 years. For this season his salary was 11.25, roster bonus 1 mil, and workout bonus 250k. Those items plus the 5 mil bonus for this year and his cap hit was 17.5 million had he stayed on the team. Now that hes traded, the total 15 mil remaining is accelerated into one year. So 17.5-15=2.5 mil savings on our 2018 cap. We save a tiny bit this year and a shitload the next two years (19.5 in 2019 and 17.5 in 2020) and pick up the 3rd rounder. Clears up future money for Beckham and (hopefully) Collins and gets us some immediate draft capital and very much needed cap savings Perfect explanation Herc , thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted March 22, 2018 Author Share Posted March 22, 2018 Nice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeMesiS Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 So long JPP, thanks for the memories. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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