Herc Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 This is all I need to see. He can gtfo http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21886809/new-york-giants-landon-collins-calls-teammate-eli-apple-cancer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeGL Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 lol, it's happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Look, I love Collins, but you don't do this shit. If Apple never opened his mouth all season, his play has been enough to show he's been a problem. The Circus continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted December 27, 2017 Author Share Posted December 27, 2017 Agree, he shouldnt be saying it at all but between this and all the healthy scratches and likely anonymous leaking to ESPN this guy is a real piece of work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 I get where all of this is coming from and sadly it just been one misstep to the next. There is a severe lack of leadership on the defense which showed up on the field all season. Understand how Collins would be pissed after trying to help Apple only to be called a liar in public. I don't know why Collins even had to talk about him talking to Apple in the first place. Should have been kept between them but that didn't happen either. Positive all of this is going to get squashed because it is the frustration of a disaster of a season spilling into public view. Only thing that can top this would be Eli retiring and writing a book that is released in September. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sstempest Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 ...and there goes what's left of Apple's trade value. Nice going Collins :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 I wouldn't see many teams lining up to trade much for him. I'd take a 5th rounder for him before the public comments of the last two weeks. I don't foresee any team even giving that much now, despite his first round selection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 some guy on the radio was blaming Odell. Saying bc he doesn't follow rules, Eli feels he doesn't have to. I don't buy that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Eli Lemon and Erica Flowers are effectively two big draft busts at this point. Maybe Eli Lemon has a chance to turn it around, given his athleticism and lack of reps, but right now he's not looking good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 some guy on the radio was blaming Odell. Saying bc he doesn't follow rules, Eli feels he doesn't have to. I don't buy that. This comes from ESPN and solely ESPN. The likes of Michael Kay, Chris Canty, Dipietro (sp), Hahn, Anita Marks and all the other idiots over there blaming Beckham for every mishap that takes place with the Giants organization has garnered a bunch of mindless sheep feeling the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 This comes from ESPN and solely ESPN. The likes of Michael Kay, Chris Canty, Dipietro (sp), Hahn, Anita Marks and all the other idiots over there blaming Beckham for every mishap that takes place with the Giants organization has garnered a bunch of mindless sheep feeling the same way. I think it was CBS sports but I agree with your perspective. Considering they have Randy Moss in the mix, who was much worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 I think it was CBS sports but I agree with your perspective. Considering they have Randy Moss in the mix, who was much worse. Oh no... I mean that's where the Blame Odell Train originated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Oh no... I mean that's where the Blame Odell Train originated. If anything, The Giants last year were not supportive enough of Beckham. I felt Eli could've shut it all down by saying "he's a great receiver and teammate, that's all I care about" Instead, he went all Peyton on him with snide comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 I don't exactly remember what Eli said about him aside from that joke about the boat trip. I gotta go back and check when I get some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Obj has the front office by the balls after this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrashTalker92 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Need Collins to grow the fuck up if he really want to be a leader of this group. You never shame another person outside of the team. Horrible decision, maybe hire Strahan or AP back for some consulting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Need Collins to grow the fuck up if he really want to be a leader of this group. You never shame another person outside of the team. Horrible decision, maybe hire Strahan or AP back for some consulting. Strahan... to teach how to keep things private..... interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Need Collins to grow the fuck up if he really want to be a leader of this group. You never shame another person outside of the team. Horrible decision, maybe hire Strahan or AP back for some consulting. Leadership has to come from within the team and I don't see anyone besides Collins as ready & willing. I hope Collins learns from this one. JPP, Vernon, Harrison & Jenkins are uninterested in a leadership role. Being a NYG team captain clearly doesn't have the same responsibility it did ten years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted December 27, 2017 Author Share Posted December 27, 2017 The only job they could give strahan that makes more money than he does now is vernons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Apple suspended for finale... http://m.giants.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/Giants-suspend-CB-Eli-Apple/e34bc0b0-f6cc-4a73-9798-074a75a489b3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 And his career with the Giants is likely done....cementing his status as Eli Lemon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 I heard that he told reporters he had to take a dump when asked about what Collins said about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Any chance we could trade Apple to the Jags for Coughlin? Imagine if Coughlin was head of football operations here? Fucking guys would fear saying shit to the media and we would probably have a true leader or two on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 He's never coming back. He always loved the Jags, he's happy doing his thing and the owner down there is going to let him run the ship. They have better players also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Suspended Eli Apple will play better on Sunday than active Eli Apple.Book it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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