Sephiroth Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 I hope this is only to fill the Rooney Rule requirements. This is the guy who's been the head of our drafts for the past 11 years. The Giants officially have begun the process to replace fired GM Jerry Reese with an internal candidate, interviewing Marc Ross for the vacancy on Monday. Ross, the team’s VP of player evaluation, interviewed with team president John Mara and former general manager Ernie Accorsi, who is serving as a front-office consultant during the selection process. Ross, 44, is the first person to interview for the opening after Reese and head coach Ben McAdoo were axed two weeks ago. Interim GM Kevin Abrams also is expected to formally interview this week, with former Carolina GM Dave Gettleman considered a leading candidate, for the position. By interviewing Ross, the Giants have satisfied the Rooney Rule, which requires NFL teams to interview minority candidates for head coaching and senior front-office openings. The rule is named after Pittsburgh Steelers patriarch Dan Rooney, the chairman of the NFL’s diversity committee who helped facilitate its creation in 2002. Eagles fans taking over MetLife latest blow in Giants' season Ross in his 11th season with the Giants, the last five in his current position after spending a half-dozen years as the organization’s director of college scouting. He came to the Giants in 2007 from the Buffalo Bills, where he spent three seasons as a national college scout. His first NFL job was as a public relations training camp intern with the Giants in 1995. The Princeton grad, an All-Ivy league wide receiver in 1993 and 1994, was instrumental in the Giants’ drafting of contributors Evan Engram, Dalvin Tomlinson and Wayne Gallman in the first four rounds of this year’s draft, and also was on the collegiate staff when the Giants tabbed Odell Beckham Jr., Landon Collins, Justin Pugh and Sterling Shepard. John Mara and the Giants have begun their search for a new GM. (SETH WENIG/AP) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Lol I had the same pissed off reaction. It does seem like a Rooney rule thing though. If anyone gets internally promoted to fill this position then we all know who the real gm is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Yea I hear they were looking at Jeff Fisher for HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Yea I hear they were looking at Jeff Fisher for HC. Not sure how I feel about that.. but it beats the fuck out MacAdoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 I hope youre joking fringe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 I hope youre joking fringe heard it on CBS Sports. I think they were just throwing out names Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightFire Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Not sure how I feel about that.. but it beats the fuck out MacAdoo It wouldn't though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Not a fan of Fisher...just seems like football has passed him by...with him still trying to make old shit work. Probably not 100% the case, but it just has that feel. Likewise, I'm not a fan of hiring a GM or coach from within this time. We tried the partial house cleaning and it got us to 2 wins this year....only....2 wins. I think Ross shares as much blame as Reese in the failure to bring in talent on draft day and having to use FA to simply field a team. Sure, they've hit here and there, but for the most part, have swung and missed. I appreciate the efforts behind the Rooney Rule...but I think it needs abolished at this point given teams are using token black guys to fulfill it. I'm comforted in knowing that this was the first interview and I'd be surprised if they went with the first guy they spoke to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Not a fan of Fisher...just seems like football has passed him by...with him still trying to make old shit work. Probably not 100% the case, but it just has that feel. Likewise, I'm not a fan of hiring a GM or coach from within this time. We tried the partial house cleaning and it got us to 2 wins this year....only....2 wins. I think Ross shares as much blame as Reese in the failure to bring in talent on draft day and having to use FA to simply field a team. Sure, they've hit here and there, but for the most part, have swung and missed. I appreciate the efforts behind the Rooney Rule...but I think it needs abolished at this point given teams are using token black guys to fulfill it. I'm comforted in knowing that this was the first interview and I'd be surprised if they went with the first guy they spoke to. Agreed on all counts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 heard it on CBS Sports. I think they were just throwing out names Throwing out....or up names. C.Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Gettleman interviewed http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21829088/dave-gettleman-interviews-new-york-giants-general-manager-position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Gettleman interviewed http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21829088/dave-gettleman-interviews-new-york-giants-general-manager-position I'm hopeful about Gettleman. I consider that he wasn't the first choice of Ernie Accorsi as a step in the right direction. Jerry Reese was his first choice and our draft throughout the years has shown it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BronxRik Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Gettleman interviewed http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21829088/dave-gettleman-interviews-new-york-giants-general-manager-position Dear football Gods, You know the rest..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 No on Gettleman too. Hes 67 years old and his drafts lately have been average. This is the guy we need http://giantswire.usatoday.com/2017/12/20/new-york-giants-will-interview-louis-riddick-general-manager-position/ I dont want out with the old, in with the older Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted December 21, 2017 Author Share Posted December 21, 2017 I'd take Gettleman. Whether it's with the Giants or Carolina, the guy has a track record of success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 I don't know why Gettleman was fired, he's been vindicated by Norman's play in DC, in my view. Assuming that move and others similar were the reason. How horrible, a GM that has a realistic view of his own players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 And his age doesn't bother me at all. If anything, that is probably the sweet spot for that kind of top exec role. Coaching is different, it's physically active, fast paced. But for gm, give me experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 And I actually bet that Jerry Reese will be a good GM elsewhere down the road. Time for a change here, and it's something Reese will learn from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted December 21, 2017 Author Share Posted December 21, 2017 Dunno man. Here's a great article about why Gettleman was let go. Sounds like he may be just a bit Aspergery but has a fine analytical mind... and again, it's difficult to argue with his success. The Panthers have ten wins this season, with a roster Gettleman built. Maybe have him and Abrams as a GM/Assistant GM combo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Gettleman was fired because Richardson didnt know what a salary cap was and wanted to pay everybody. He didnt like gettleman pushing back on him. The bottom line is he built a Super Bowl team around an average qb. I dont know if hes the right guy for the job but Im not against it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 And his age doesn't bother me at all. If anything, that is probably the sweet spot for that kind of top exec role. Coaching is different, it's physically active, fast paced. But for gm, give me experience. Yea I don't understand why his age is even mentioned.. it's not like the guy is 80. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Bring Ron Rivera with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeMeSomeFoodHo Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 I know I'm a broken record, but if this seasons debacle happened last year, Sean Mcvay would be our HC. Probably going to be coa..or the eagles guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Dunno man. Here's a great article about why Gettleman was let go. Sounds like he may be just a bit Aspergery but has a fine analytical mind... and again, it's difficult to argue with his success. The Panthers have ten wins this season, with a roster Gettleman built. Maybe have him and Abrams as a GM/Assistant GM combo? Good article, thanks for sharing. It does give some more information about the potential next GM. I don't think anyone will really know for certain the reason Gettleman was fired, there was no smoking gun in that article. I hope Gettleman learned from his experience down in Carolina and does a better job here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Bring Ron Rivera with Not a fan. Don't want anyone from the Buddy Ryan tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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