Storm Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Remember all those times when a NFL team benched their starting QB of 14 years in the middle of a season, just to turn it all around. Oh right I cant. Teams like the Browns do this. Not the Giants....well not till now. Eli Manning wouldnt be here if the Giants hadnt done nearly exactly that to Kurt Warner. He just wasnt their own starting QB for 13 years. Still benched a winning and successful starting quarterback with the team having a winning record. People have to move on. Manning is done in the NFL. Alex Smith will be next and it will happen very soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Had to happen some time. This means he will be elsewhere next year. They made a decision, its never easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorillaNJ Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Eli Manning wouldnt be here if the Giants hadnt done nearly exactly that to Kurt Warner. He just wasnt their own starting QB for 13 years. Still benched a winning and successful starting quarterback with the team having a winning record. People have to move on. Manning is done in the NFL. Alex Smith will be next and it will happen very soon. Warner was a free agent and Eli was the number 1 draft pick. Eli is a local hero and Geno Smith was so bad he could not play for the fucking Jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMFP Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 The Giants are a fucking disgrace.....starting with John Mara, who had shit for brains by keeping Reese and pushing Coughlin out the door. Go Jaguars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Warner wasnt successful with us. He had those mysterious thumb njuries that went away after he was traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Warner was a free agent and Eli was the number 1 draft pick. Eli is a local hero and Geno Smith was so bad he could not play for the fucking Jets Is there an echo in here? And yet still, even with subpar QB play for the past three years, here we are with a losing record and no one wants to make any actual changes. Mannings skillset is still a significant part of the problem right now. You simply cant win with a game manager QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Warner wasnt successful with us. He had those mysterious thumb njuries that went away after he was traded. He was 5-4, not 2-9, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Saddest day in recent Giants history. I really don't have any words. And to add insult to injury, benching Eli for Geno? I never even wanted him in a Giants uniform, forget ever seeing him play a snap. He's a piece of shit as a player and a bigger piece of shit as a person. And now he's 'our' starter? No. Not my starter. Go Raiders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 He was 5-4, not 2-9, though.He didnt like it here- maybe because we drafted Eli.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 https://youtu.be/yYxc2PW4Kv4 Anyone who ever said Eli was bored, didn't really like football, etc can go fuck themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorillaNJ Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Is there an echo in here? And yet still, even with subpar QB play for the past three years, here we are with a losing record and no one wants to make any actual changes. Mannings skillset is still a significant part of the problem right now. You simply cant win with a game manager QB. You simply cannot win with Geno at QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ggirl Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Shame on The New York Football Giants. This pretty much sums it all up for me. I wasn't truly embarrassed by the team and their awful losing season, until today. Whomever is responsible for this...should be ashamed. And fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lughead Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Right decision, wrong quarterback to start. The offense is anemic with Manning. OHHHHH its all his fault then? SMH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 OHHHHH its all his fault then? SMH Its not his fault but its the rare occasion a QB can keep it going past 35. A lot contributed, like him being shell shocked because of the offensive line. But he cant hang in and deliver a pass or really even throw an accurate pass with authority or touch anymore. He doesnt work the pocket well and timing routes are off, even when he had his starting receivers available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lughead Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 what is this pocket thing you are speaking of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 what is this pocket thing you are speaking of? Wouldnt know, he doesnt step up in it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Everyone bitched when Mcadoo stated they had no plans to get Webb some reps. Now everyone is bitching because the plan moving forward is to do exactly that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeGL Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Needed to start webb, not geno. Stupid decision, but I'm also upset about Eli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jranieli Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 I don't think you can immediately put Webb right in there to start. I think that's the plan and he will get time, but I think this week isn't the time to do so. Maybe 4th quarter. Watch Geno will get hurt and Eli comes in to a standing ovation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 I don't think you can immediately put Webb right in there to start. I think that's the plan and he will get time, but I think this week isn't the time to do so. Maybe 4th quarter. Watch Geno will get hurt and Eli comes in to a standing ovation. My guess is thats exactly what theyll do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 I thought you had to start working in Webb, but I also think when the best QB in the history of your franchise says, "I don't care about my record, I want to win" you say back to him, "after all you've given this organization, we can at least give you that." It's embarrassing to be benched for Geno Smith. Eli is one class act. Not many left like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted November 29, 2017 Author Share Posted November 29, 2017 This is what Ive been saying for a few years now. John Mara is NOT his father. Itd be one thing if it was Webb-in fact getting some tape on Webb for five games is smart before we decide to commit a number 1 pick on a qb, but playing geno over manning at all is a slap in the face. John Mara doesnt deserve Eli Manning on his team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted November 29, 2017 Author Share Posted November 29, 2017 Hed better fucking clean house. Gm and coach, and no lame fucking internal promotions to head coach because he thinks hes right and the fan base is a bunch of morons who need a bone thrown their way. I already havent given a dime to him this year and Im happy to keep my money again next year if he wants to continue to be stubborn. The only reason this guy isnt portrayed as a Jerry Jones or Al Davis type meddler is because of his last name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Not going back over 3 pages. This is the dumbest fucking choice yet. If Webb was worth a fuck right now, he'd be the #2 QB. And while he may well end being good, he couldn't be now. Then you put him behind a line like this and you have a fucking disaster waiting to happen. Now on Sunday we have a kid who the Jets couldn't dump fast enough, throwing to guys to wide receivers who shouldn't be in this league or handing off to a rb who has 500 yards and is having a career year!. I predict now that Evan Engram is going to get hurt in these next 5 games if these fucking guys are targeting him. This team has guys who are playing hard and deserve better. Eli Manning throwing with his left hand blindfolded is still the better option. I don't care how bad he's been he deserves the opportunity to finish out the season. This is a fucking tank job and I hate it, I hate a team who throws in the fucking towel no matter how bad they are. Fans pay big bucks to go watch this team play and they should be getting the best team they can no matter what happens. Guys like Collins and Harrison and Vernon, JPP are trying out there, they dont need to go the whole season knowing they are going back onto the field every 2 minutes. I haven't been this pissed since the Kurt Warner/Eli situation where somehow, some people actually thought that it was a great idea to dump a qb who had a winning record, for a green qb (Eli) who then stunk up the joint and we threw the season away. I hated it then, hate it now. Jerry can fucking go now and Ben for all I care at this point can head also. But that I guess isn't going to happen now as the excuses are being piled up to save his job end of season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 This is what Ive been saying for a few years now. John Mara is NOT his father. Itd be one thing if it was Webb-in fact getting some tape on Webb for five games is smart before we decide to commit a number 1 pick on a qb, but playing geno over manning at all is a slap in the face. John Mara doesnt deserve Eli Manning on his team This is exactly how I feel. The younger Mara cant hold a candle to his old man. Geno is not the future of the franchise and if the coaches and management think he is it makes me question how we've been competitive this long. There's an argument to be made to see what your rookie's got if you're planning for the future but you don't bench the best QB the franchise has seen for Geno fucking Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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