MakeMeSomeFoodHo Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Who do they take? Do they trade it wt cetera? What do they do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 I'm no expert, but I listen for the names so I have some idea who we ended up getting come draft day. There are supposedly a couple quarterbacks that are coming out in 2018 that are being talked up as the next best group. Two or three of them. Add the Penn State RB, Barkley, into the mix and you've got the top couple picks I'd think. Maybe if some left tackle separates himself mid-season and combine, they enter the discussion as well. For me, as much as I want offensive line...for as much as I've been screaming for offensive line...I really, really have to take a long, hard look at the QBs sitting there. That said, I also would be taking a long, hard look at Davis Webb as well. Geno Smith is not the long term answer for us. I would be sure to find out what we have in Webb and if he's not the long term starter, then you almost have to go with one of the top QBs come draft day. The catch of course to that logic is that with the offensive line we have, how can you get a true evaluation of Webb? Regardless, I think it's clear that Eli is on the downside of his career and his replacement should already be here when Eli hangs up the cleats. Ideally, everyone shoots for the Favre-Rodgers transition. We seem to have the opportunity to do just that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeMeSomeFoodHo Posted October 24, 2017 Author Share Posted October 24, 2017 I don't know much about Webb other than we took him with a pick many thought to be a waste. Is he any good... highly touted? Smart? Big arm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Smart, mobile, huge arm. Not a whole lot of experience though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lughead Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 The second we are mathematically out we put him in after every halftime this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 The second we are mathematically out we put him in after every halftime this year Won't happen. Kind of wish it would though. I'm pretty enamored of Webb's natural ability. But only one season starting in college makes him very raw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 The second we are mathematically out we put him in after every halftime this year So we should of been doing it after week four. I made a thread on it before, they should play Eli a quarter or two, then sit everyone who is gonna be a starter next year. Granted it would tank the teams ticket sales even worse and Mara wouldn't be happy so it will never happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 I don't know much about Webb other than we took him with a pick many thought to be a waste. Is he any good... highly touted? Smart? Big arm? My opinoin: He's our Carson Wentz, big arm, accurate, very smart, and a student of game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 We don't know what Davis Webb is, other than a guy we won't even let suit up on Sundays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 We don't know what Davis Webb is, other than a guy we won't even let suit up on Sundays. well, he know he's tall, fast, has as good an arm as anybody, had damn good numbers in his one season starting in college, and is a pathologically hard worker. So... we know enough to be optimistic.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Agreed on the optimism...but with 9 games remaining, we have the ability to find out more...but likely won't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 So we should of been doing it after week four. I made a thread on it before, they should play Eli a quarter or two, then sit everyone who is gonna be a starter next year. Granted it would tank the teams ticket sales even worse and Mara wouldn't be happy so it will never happen. Actually I think Mara is the only guy that would actually want that. 6-10 might possibly save McAdoo or Reese, but it won't let us know what we have for next season. Mc and JR are fighting for their professional lives so they're not going to "see what they've got" unless they know they're returning next year; they're going to do whatever it takes to win as many games as possible and make their record look less shitty (or say, 'see? The team never quit on us!'). Right now that's Eli. The only guy sure to come back next year is the owner. If you see a switch like that, I think it would actually come from Mara. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Agreed on the optimism...but with 9 games remaining, we have the ability to find out more...but likely won't Yea... even with a shitty OL, he should fair better than Eli who's not mobile at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K3VIN Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Josh Allen is the only QB I like , Barkley is a beast. The spread offense makes it hard to find OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lughead Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 https://www.sny.tv/giants/news/jerry-reese-giants-not-ready-to-turn-to-davis-webb-right-now/259592308 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Yea... even with a shitty OL, he should fair better than Eli who's not mobile at all. Aww, Eli gets a bad rap, he's more mobile than most people think. In the pocket, at least. And he has more foot speed than Brady, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Webb is mobile as fuck in madden for what it's worth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 https://www.sny.tv/giants/news/jerry-reese-giants-not-ready-to-turn-to-davis-webb-right-now/259592308 That's expected at THIS point... everyone is reading the normal talking points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Heard a Pats scout on the radio the other day...he says... College ball is all systems...can make an average QB look great and a great OB average.....that is how a Matt Lienhart looks like a future HOF and Tom Brady gets drafted in the 6th round. He says when they evaluated QBs they never looked at stats or win / lose....just film....and pretty much ignored everything in the game but down, distance, and situation (2 minute drill...etc. They figure you get the raw talent...body, arm, agility, brains and cool...and coach them up in the pros. Webb...is big...he is athletic....great arm...smart....and a worker.....now the issue...who coaches him up? C. Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 I think when a turnover happens is when they get their new QB right now they wont want to change systems for Eli, so most likely that turnover isnt happening. Will a new HC/OC want Webb? Idk theres not much and the 2019 draft for QBs unless oneif the guys stays another in college Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 I think when a turnover happens is when they get their new QB right now they wont want to change systems for Eli, so most likely that turnover isnt happening. Will a new HC/OC want Webb? Idk theres not much and the 2019 draft for QBs unless oneif the guys stays another in college It's clear to me anyway that Macadoo doesn't want Eli now. All of these innuendos he puts out - like telling the announcers last week that you can tell how a game is going from Eli's feet- along with the general under bus throwing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Heard a Pats scout on the radio the other day...he says... College ball is all systems...can make an average QB look great and a great OB average.....that is how a Matt Lienhart looks like a future HOF and Tom Brady gets drafted in the 6th round. He says when they evaluated QBs they never looked at stats or win / lose....just film....and pretty much ignored everything in the game but down, distance, and situation (2 minute drill...etc. They figure you get the raw talent...body, arm, agility, brains and cool...and coach them up in the pros. Webb...is big...he is athletic....great arm...smart....and a worker.....now the issue...who coaches him up? C. Wagon One thing I know. McAdoo and Sullivan will ensure that Webb is highly proficient at the 3 yard out routes to the TE or RB. You can count on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 One thing I know. McAdoo and Sullivan will ensure that Webb is highly proficient at the 3 yard out routes to the TE or RB. You can count on that. Pair him with a RB that gets you three on the third-and-long giveup draw and I see many super bowls in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allstarjim Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Nothing matters until McAdoo is gone. His offense is garbage and a joke. They need to get back to running the football. That doesn't necessarily mean we need Barkley. But we do need a hammer who has some speed. A guy who is going to be a devastating RB in the NFL who may come out in the 2018 draft is Bo Scarbrough of Alabama. Don't necessarily need to use a first rounder to get him, either, but he's going to be a real good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Nothing matters until McAdoo is gone. His offense is garbage and a joke. They need to get back to running the football. That doesn't necessarily mean we need Barkley. But we do need a hammer who has some speed. A guy who is going to be a devastating RB in the NFL who may come out in the 2018 draft is Bo Scarbrough of Alabama. Don't necessarily need to use a first rounder to get him, either, but he's going to be a real good one. wird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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