Nas Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 We will agree to disagree. Cheers buddy. Nooooo... that's not how it works, bud. If you disagree with me, we gotta take it outside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted October 8, 2017 Author Share Posted October 8, 2017 So now that it's all said and done and we have 11 weeks of useless football to look forward to. How are the college games going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted October 8, 2017 Author Share Posted October 8, 2017 Do the Giants go something like 3-13 and end up getting a chance at guys like Barkly or Adams? Or do they manage to get some meaningless wins and end up 6-10 and end up outside of the top 10? I mean Barkley would be a huge upgrade at RB, but would he do anything with this Oline? Adams is a day one starting tackle in the NFL, but would you then kick Flowers out of the LT for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Do the Giants go something like 3-13 and end up getting a chance at guys like Barkly or Adams? Or do they manage to get some meaningless wins and end up 6-10 and end up outside of the top 10? I mean Barkley would be a huge upgrade at RB, but would he do anything with this Oline? Adams is a day one starting tackle in the NFL, but would you then kick Flowers out of the LT for him? I would kick Flowers out for Jumbo Elliot... today... off the street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 fire everybody, start fresh like an expansion team. That's how bad this looks to me right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 fire everybody, start fresh like an expansion team. That's how bad this looks to me right now. I said this same thing two offseasons ago but yeah. When you go half-assed you get half-assed... or in our case, worse. http://www.sportswrath.com/index.php?showtopic=50836&view=&hl=&fromsearch=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I said this same thing two offseasons ago but yeah. When you go half-assed you get half-assed... or in our case, worse. Yep. Ownership is getting what they deserve--empty seats in October. I always went to 2-3 games a year but I'll pass this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorillaNJ Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Now it's time to be thinking qb of the future. Can't imagine the Giants sneaking more than 4 wins now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Mock draft 2.0 updated today; 1 - OL 2 - LB 3 - OL 4 - LB 5 - OL 6 - LB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 The defensive line got zero pressure all game long. Melvin Gordon tore them up the middle all game long. I'd say you need to throw in some defensive lineman, Vendetta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Now it's time to be thinking qb of the future. Can't imagine the Giants sneaking more than 4 wins now I'd love if we could followed the Eli formula. Round 1: franchise QB Round 2: mauling, road grading guard Not Reese making the picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 The defensive line got zero pressure all game long. Melvin Gordon tore them up the middle all game long. I'd say you need to throw in some defensive lineman, Vendetta. Haven't we just drafted one in the 2nd round already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Haven't we just drafted one in the 2nd round already? Yep. Good thing we got that Dalvin Tomlinson instead of a LB like Zach Cunningham. Our LBs once again look great in coverage with tight ends eating them up for 80 yards and a TD every week. In fact, I think we should switch our name to "The New York---Jason Witten... Touchdown!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Yep. Good thing we got that Dalvin Tomlinson instead of a LB like Zach Cunningham. Our LBs once again look great in coverage with tight ends eating them up for 80 yards and a TD every week. In fact, I think we should switch our name to "The New York---Jason Witten... Touchdown!" I was only responding to the notion that we need to draft a DT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Hearing the Giants are already enamored with Josh Rosen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Great, he can back up Davis Webb the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Theyll probably draft Barkley and re-sign Vereen for Barkley can sit the bench while Vereen gets the 4th quarter snaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Hearing the Giants are already enamored with Josh Rosen Me too, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman_NYG Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Pick in the top 5 - trade down and get a bunch of picks and that's what we need considering the moon surface craters we have. Most of the top guys seem to be guys from the later rounds - Watson, Hunt etc etc. Get Reese the fuck outta here and get a younger scout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 If we don't get at least two starting offensive linemen this offseason that produce for the next 4 years, then I may have to cancel my fandom. This is complete bullshit that we have to put up with a team like this. Wasting the years of a franchise QB, wasting good defenses...it's hot garbage at best. Fuck these top QBs...we just used a 3rd rounder on one...a fucking 3rd rounder and we're ready to just throw that guy away for a 1st rounder when we don't know whether either can do shit. I swear on all that's holy if we don't see Webb in the game in meaningful situations before the end of the year and if they take a QB...I might just be done with all things Giants for a while. I've been a fan for almost 30 years now...and I just don't know how fans deal with their teams when their teams don't do what's necessary to succeed. I mean shit...look at the Browns. They've sucked for a lot longer, but at least they make the effort and try. They fuck it up royally...frequently...but at least they get a guy to fill a position of need. We just say forget it...it'll take care of itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 If we don't get at least two starting offensive linemen this offseason that produce for the next 4 years, then I may have to cancel my fandom. This is complete bullshit that we have to put up with a team like this. Wasting the years of a franchise QB, wasting good defenses...it's hot garbage at best. Fuck these top QBs...we just used a 3rd rounder on one...a fucking 3rd rounder and we're ready to just throw that guy away for a 1st rounder when we don't know whether either can do shit. I swear on all that's holy if we don't see Webb in the game in meaningful situations before the end of the year and if they take a QB...I might just be done with all things Giants for a while. I've been a fan for almost 30 years now...and I just don't know how fans deal with their teams when their teams don't do what's necessary to succeed. I mean shit...look at the Browns. They've sucked for a lot longer, but at least they make the effort and try. They fuck it up royally...frequently...but at least they get a guy to fill a position of need. We just say forget it...it'll take care of itself. My concern is that throwing Webb out there with this OL and without the time and reps necessary can be counter-productive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindgreed1 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Now it's time to be thinking qb of the future. Can't imagine the Giants sneaking more than 4 wins now This and an O line to protect him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 This and an O line to protect him Of course... and it's not like we're talking about 10 people... need maybe 2 starters on that unit and we're good... It's amazing how much one bad unit can fuck up an entire season and the OL I think is the most important unit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Yeah, but now the defense is dropping off too, and it isn't just because the offense is putting them in bad position or not holding the ball. It's like we're trying to scramble up a slippery slope. I'm beginning to think that trying to chase a SB under the contracts of older vets like Eli, JPP, etc. might be chasing the wind a bit. Offensive line, defensive end, offensive line, linebacker, outside wide receiver...in that order. I could give a shit where they come from, draft or free agency...but that there needs to be the priority list. I think that between Gallman and Perkins, we're okay at RB. Engram and Ellison at TE are fine. Beckham, Shepard, draft pick at WR...put Beckham or Shepard in the slot on 3WR sets. Or, split out Engram. As far as Webb goes...we have to see what he's got. Period. The risk is worth it to know going into the offseason whether you need to find Eli's replacement or whether you already have him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindgreed1 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Yeah, but now the defense is dropping off too, and it isn't just because the offense is putting them in bad position or not holding the ball. It's like we're trying to scramble up a slippery slope. I'm beginning to think that trying to chase a SB under the contracts of older vets like Eli, JPP, etc. might be chasing the wind a bit. Offensive line, defensive end, offensive line, linebacker, outside wide receiver...in that order. I could give a shit where they come from, draft or free agency...but that there needs to be the priority list. I think that between Gallman and Perkins, we're okay at RB. Engram and Ellison at TE are fine. Beckham, Shepard, draft pick at WR...put Beckham or Shepard in the slot on 3WR sets. Or, split out Engram. As far as Webb goes...we have to see what he's got. Period. The risk is worth it to know going into the offseason whether you need to find Eli's replacement or whether you already have him. Agreed, which goes back to what I first commented on. Gmen are in pretty bad shape. The needs of the team outweigh what you can get in one off season. You guys will be rebuilding for a while IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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