Sephiroth Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Or was he hacked? Or high? Osi? http://www.bigblueview.com/2017/4/3/15165062/ny-giants-rumors-news-owa-odighizuwa-issues-mystifying-series-of-tweets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osi724dasack Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Sounds like he's a pussy Looks like Tarzan plays like Jane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Monument worthy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Can a third round pick be disappointing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 How does one walk away from a great bench job? With JPP locked in alongside O. Vernon, don't give a shit what Odighizuwa does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayD Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 That's just dumb. He has a chance to be part of something special. Spags has a way of using more then 2 ends at the same time if he can rush the passer at all. Is there any depth type ends left in FA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Should of taken Danielle Hunter instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 I have done more for the giants in 2 years than this kid. How do you take a break from doing nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Are we sure this wasn't some kind of a delayed April fool's joke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Gotta love our luck/Jerry's inability to find players in the 3rd round who can contribute and last, beyond a few flashes. 2007 - Jay Alford 2008 - Mario Manningham (okay, Reese gets a pass here for his contributions) 2009 - Ramses Barden, Travis Beckham 2010 - Chad Jones (okay, this is not on Reese) 2011 - Jerrel Jernigan 2012 - Jayron Hosely 2013 - Damontre Moore 2014 - Jay Bromley (may be a decent backup at best) 2015 - OO 2016 - Darian Thompson (I'm optimistic about him though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Gotta love our luck/Jerry's inability to find players in the 3rd round who can contribute and last, beyond a few flashes. 2007 - Jay Alford 2008 - Mario Manningham (okay, Reese gets a pass here for his contributions) 2009 - Ramses Barden, Travis Beckham 2010 - Chad Jones (okay, this is not on Reese) 2011 - Jerrel Jernigan 2012 - Jayron Hosely 2013 - Damontre Moore 2014 - Jay Bromley (may be a decent backup at best) 2015 - OO 2016 - Darian Thompson (I'm optimistic about him though) Doesn't mean shit unless you're going to research all other GMs success/failure on 3rd round picks. I'm not defending Reese necessarily, but just listing the 3rd rounders doesn't prove Reese better or worse than others, which is what I'm presuming you're trying to prove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted April 4, 2017 Author Share Posted April 4, 2017 Doesn't mean shit unless you're going to research all other GMs success/failure on 3rd round picks. I'm not defending Reese necessarily, but just listing the 3rd rounders doesn't prove Reese better or worse than others, which is what I'm presuming you're trying to prove. I thought Reese was terrible with third rounders too but somebody posted a stat back in the day of the 3rd round success rate, and while Reese is worse than your average GM it's not apples v. oranges worse. Still though,,, you have to go back to 2005 to find a 3rd round pick on this team that was a real contributor, unless you count Mario Manningham as a 3rd WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Doesn't mean shit unless you're going to research all other GMs success/failure on 3rd round picks. I'm not defending Reese necessarily, but just listing the 3rd rounders doesn't prove Reese better or worse than others, which is what I'm presuming you're trying to prove. I'd venture to say his record is worse...I'll look into it more though, to your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osi724dasack Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 He sure sucks in the 3rd but man he's money in the 1st and 2nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Gotta love our luck/Jerry's inability to find players in the 3rd round who can contribute and last, beyond a few flashes. 2007 - Jay Alford 2008 - Mario Manningham (okay, Reese gets a pass here for his contributions) 2009 - Ramses Barden, Travis Beckham 2010 - Chad Jones (okay, this is not on Reese) 2011 - Jerrel Jernigan 2012 - Jayron Hosely 2013 - Damontre Moore 2014 - Jay Bromley (may be a decent backup at best) 2015 - OO 2016 - Darian Thompson (I'm optimistic about him though) This idea is simply flawed at every level of logical thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 This idea is simply flawed at every level of logical thought. Out of the draft picks above, which are long term starters in this league? Or are even still in the league, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Out of the draft picks above, which are long term starters in this league? Or are even still in the league, lol. How about seventh round picks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 How about seventh round picks? How do you compare the third round to the seventh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Unfortunately there's no error bar so with can't estimate variance, but I would assume that if the Giants' 3rd round picks last, on average, less than 4 years TOTAL IN THE NFL (not just on the team that drafted them) it would be significantly different from the median career length of 6 years TOTAL. Also note this analysis only takes account of players who actually signed contracts and retired. All the guys who were cut and didn't make rosters are not included (though this would be very few for a 1-3rd rounder it would be a lot for 6-7 rds) so Chad Jones shouldn't count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 The only 3rd round Reese picks that have retired are: Alford - 3 years Manningham - 6 years Beckum - 5 years Barden - 5 years So a mean of 4.75 years. Alford had the MCL tear, not Reese's fault, so if you give him a Mulligan on that one it's a mean of 5.33 years. I don't think there's much of an argument to Reese being significantly worse at picking 3rd round talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 The only 3rd round Reese picks that have retired are: Alford - 3 years Manningham - 6 years Beckum - 5 years Barden - 5 years So a mean of 4.75 years. Alford had the MCL tear, not Reese's fault, so if you give him a Mulligan on that one it's a mean of 5.33 years. I don't think there's much of an argument to Reese being significantly worse at picking 3rd round talent. Why aren't you counting Hosley? And what's the lower end range? I wonder what percentile that puts Reese in. Certainly would be in the lower half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osi724dasack Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Why aren't you counting Hosley? And what's the lower end range? I wonder what percentile that puts Reese in. Certainly would be in the lower half. Probly since Hosely isn't technically retired yet He served 4 years in poor form. Major disappointment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 In any case, at best Jerry Reese is below average in the third round, and worst he may be in the bottom five-ten GMs. I think he's an okay GM overall...but nothing special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 How do you compare the third round to the seventh? Only difference I've seen from a third rounder to a seventh rounder is contract length and cost. We have had good players come from both rounds. Giants draft players by consensus, the decision isn't made by one person. So when the Giants get it wrong or right it is a group decision. Take a good look at the last ten years concerning the Super Bowl: Giants have 2 wins and 2 appearances. Patriots have 2 wins and 4 appearances. Colts have 1 wins and 2 appearances. Steelers have 1 win and 2 appearances. Packers have 1 win and 2 appearances. Seahawks have 1 win and 2 appearances. I can easily make the case that Jerry Reese should be in the top ten instead of the bottom five. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Only difference I've seen from a third rounder to a seventh rounder is contract length and cost. We have had good players come from both rounds. Giants draft players by consensus, the decision isn't made by one person. So when the Giants get it wrong or right it is a group decision. Take a good look at the last ten years concerning the Super Bowl: Giants have 2 wins and 2 appearances. Patriots have 2 wins and 4 appearances. Colts have 1 wins and 2 appearances. Steelers have 1 win and 2 appearances. Packers have 1 win and 2 appearances. Seahawks have 1 win and 2 appearances. I can easily make the case that Jerry Reese should be in the top ten instead of the bottom five. Because they pulled out 2 super bowls by miraculous magic? With the exception of the Colts, those other teams are quality year after year. That's what a GM does, not will divine intervention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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