Gman329 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 This from Rotoworld..... NFL Network's Mike Garafolo reports the Giants will "make a legitimate run" at impending free agent DE Jason Pierre-Paul "in the coming days and weeks." "They will try and get a deal done before he can potentially hit the free agent market," Garafolo continued. The Giants created $10 million in cap space by cutting Victor Cruz and Rashad Jennings on Monday, and they can create even more by getting rid of J.T. Thomas and Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie. The Giants have already invested a significant chunk of cap space in a defensive line which boasts big-money free agents Olivier Vernon and Damon Harrison, but they should have the money to re-sign JPP if they so choose. Source: NFL.com Feb 13 - 10:25 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman329 Posted February 14, 2017 Author Share Posted February 14, 2017 Don't want to see DRC cut, though! The depth of quality DBs was a huge factor in Spag's schemes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 I hope so, and yeah I don't want them to cut DRC either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 I'd like to see Hankins prioritized first but I want them both back. And we don't have to cut drc to keep these guys and make other additions so I wish I'd stop hearing that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 I'd like to keep JPP, but again... he's hurt for at least six games a season. I don't think you break the bank for that, and you definitely don't cut arguably your best corner on the team to accommodate that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA4M Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Plus, most people the Giants let go.... don't go on to do much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Let JPP walk. Use the money saved to get a few more pieces of the puzzle in FA. Not to mention doesnt this years draft have a ton of pass rushing depth? And holy hell if the Gints think they can release DRC to keep JPP they are delusional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 It would be a huge mistake to hand Jason Pierre Paul a contract in the neighborhood of $60 million or more. It would be a mistake to give Jonathan Hankins the contract we should have given Linval Joseph. Jonathan Hankins has had one good season and is replaceable. Really hope the Giants aren't dumb enough to cut or trade Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie. I think his market value should be determined next year and re-signed pending health during the 2017 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 DRC has played brilliantly.. I have no idea who thinks the Giants won't do everything in their power to retain him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BronxRik Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 DRC and Rolle are the best Cardinals the Giants ever signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 DRC and Rolle are the best Cardinals the Giants ever signed. Ottis Anderson might punch you in the mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BronxRik Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Ah, I should have said best ARIZONA Cardinals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Ah, I should have said best ARIZONA Cardinals. Hahah that's weird, after I posted that last night I thought you did say Arizona and I was waiting for a smartass remark to respond to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 JPP is going to command at least 16-18 million per year. Probably in the 5 years 80 million range. I don't think he's worth it. He hasn't proven he can stay healthy, and he's a shade of his former self. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 JPP is going to command at least 16-18 million per year. Probably in the 5 years 80 million range. I don't think he's worth it. He hasn't proven he can stay healthy, and he's a shade of his former self. I don't think either of those statements are true. It is simply too much money to invest on the defensive line when we really need help at other positions on the defense as well as on offensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 JPP is going to command at least 16-18 million per year. Probably in the 5 years 80 million range. I don't think he's worth it. He hasn't proven he can stay healthy, and he's a shade of his former self. I think when he's healthy, he's a top-5 DE... but again, he's going to miss six games a season every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 I think when he's healthy, he's a top-5 DE... but again, he's going to miss six games a season every year. I honestly don't see him as top 5 even when healthy... just because have nobody behind him, this makes him look that much better. Watch the Giants go DE in the 1st round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA4M Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Guys like this is the reason we get stuck most times. Fuck the Patriots, but they never keep people to the point it holds them back. don't understand why teams don't learn from it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 I don't think either of those statements are true. It is simply too much money to invest on the defensive line when we really need help at other positions on the defense as well as on offensive. My bet is another team will extend an offer in that range, 5 years 80 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 I think when he's healthy, he's a top-5 DE... but again, he's going to miss six games a season every year. That's a big IF though...plus when healthy, I'm not so sure he's really anything to covet, given that we have money tied up in Vernon and elsewhere. If you project out what his sack totals 7.0 would have been IF he had stayed healthy, we're talking 9 - 9.5. In terms of sack leaders, that places him around ~#17 - 20 among all leaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman329 Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 Tough call on JPP. The guy is still a force, absolutely dominating a few games and he makes Vernon even more dangerous on the other side. But with Okwara and Odiggy showing a lot of potential, you don't go $15+M per year for four or five years. If you can get him closer to $10M, I think I'd do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Tough call on JPP. The guy is still a force, absolutely dominating a few games and he makes Vernon even more dangerous on the other side. But with Okwara and Odiggy showing a lot of potential, you don't go $15+M per year for four or five years. If you can get him closer to $10M, I think I'd do it. I'm on board if he's willing to come down to $10-12mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 yeah, I can't see him coming down that far. He's pretty much on record for wanting a Vernon-type deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 When did OO show some potential? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 When did OO show some potential? This. Vernon is clearly the best Dline player on the team but JPP is an easy second by far. However I don't think JPP is 15-20 million a season type of a player. I think in all honesty he should be signed on to a 8-9 million a year type of thing. Anything more I say let him walk and draft one of the crazy talented DEs in this years draft in round one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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