Bigblue25 Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Yup. Not exactly an embarrassment of riches, but I feel good about WR. And maybe it's just me, but I like this group of TEs too. Whole damn offense should be good if they can pull a RT out of their asses. Getting their 25th corner was more important than a franchise LT, because his mom is funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 I'm not... I think they're playing the money game.... The money game? He's lucky to have a job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 The money game? He's lucky to have a job That's actually what I meant.. he's playing the money game... meaning Cruz is not going to tell them his leg if fucked beyond repair even if it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 That's actually what I meant.. he's playing the money game... meaning Cruz is not going to tell them his leg if fucked beyond repair even if it is. Got you. Team doctors should realize that by now. I honestly didn't get the loyalty from the Giants side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Getting their 25th corner was more important than a franchise LT, because his mom is funny Tunsil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Tunsil? Yep. Would rather had the pothead than a third corner who's the exact same as the two corners they already have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman329 Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Would have preferred Tunsil, too.....but if he can be as good as the two corners we have, I'll take that all day long! I'm still having nightmares, seeing receivers running free through our secondary, esp on 3rd downs!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Would have preferred Tunsil, too.....but if he can be as good as the two corners we have, I'll take that all day long! I'm still having nightmares, seeing receivers running free through our secondary, esp on 3rd downs!. Thing is teams were converting third downs on passes to a RB in the flat against our LB's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman329 Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 They were converting all over the field! Giants were dead last in 3rd down % against AND dead last in yards allowed in the air, giving up 240 yards more than the next to last team (Saints). That's a lot more than RBs catching the ball in the flat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Yep. Would rather had the pothead than a third corner who's the exact same as the two corners they already have The Giants have never gone after players with history, simple fact as a Giants fan, they dont take risks on those types of players. I would of like Tunsil as well, but I have no problem with Apple, people tend to forget DRC is good to miss atleast 4-5 games a year and Jenkins is an up and down kid (honestly I think he's more down than up). Apple will be starting this year and covering teams #1/2. Besides if anything the Giant's dont need a LT, they are grooming Flowers for that, despite him still needing a ways to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 They took a chance on William Joseph and Shockey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 The Giants have never gone after players with history, simple fact as a Giants fan, they dont take risks on those types of players. I would of like Tunsil as well, but I have no problem with Apple, people tend to forget DRC is good to miss atleast 4-5 games a year and Jenkins is an up and down kid (honestly I think he's more down than up). Apple will be starting this year and covering teams #1/2. Besides if anything the Giant's dont need a LT, they are grooming Flowers for that, despite him still needing a ways to go. I think your thinking of Amukamara, Blue. Rodgers-Cromartie is stalwart. He's missed one game as a Giant and a mere 5 games over 8 seasons... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 The Giants have never gone after players with history, simple fact as a Giants fan, they dont take risks on those types of players. I would of like Tunsil as well, but I have no problem with Apple, people tend to forget DRC is good to miss atleast 4-5 games a year and Jenkins is an up and down kid (honestly I think he's more down than up). Apple will be starting this year and covering teams #1/2. Besides if anything the Giant's dont need a LT, they are grooming Flowers for that, despite him still needing a ways to go. Not to mention that Apple will at the very least take the place of Jayron Hosely... and I think we can all agree he's better than Hosely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeMesiS Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Not to mention that Apple will at the very least take the place of Jayron Hosely... and I think we can all agree he's better than Hosely. That's not saying much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Not to mention that Apple will at the very least take the place of Jayron Hosely... and I think we can all agree he's better than Hosely. That's assuming he can play the slot, which he never did at Ohio St and Jenkins doesn't have experience in the slot. They have three big press corners who all fit on the boundary. Aple was drafted to replace DRC in 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 That's assuming he can play the slot, which he never did at Ohio St and Jenkins doesn't have experience in the slot. They have three big press corners who all fit on the boundary. Aple was drafted to replace DRC in 2017 Considering that typically the nickle position is played by the weakest CB or safety on the team, I really don't see what point you're trying to make. I don't think I've ever heard that about a CB that they cant cover a slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman329 Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 I think Spags will find something for him to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Considering that typically the nickle position is played by the weakest CB or safety on the team, I really don't see what point you're trying to make. I don't think I've ever heard that about a CB that they cant cover a slot. I didn't even know how to respond to this. There's a big difference in playing the slot and playing boundary, just like there's a difference between slot WR and outside WR. For example DRC played slot in Philly and was awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 That's not saying much of course it does... Hosely is a liability out there and DRC isn't exactly 24 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 That's assuming he can play the slot, which he never did at Ohio St and Jenkins doesn't have experience in the slot. They have three big press corners who all fit on the boundary. Aple was drafted to replace DRC in 2017 We don't have to assume anything. It's physically impossible for any human being to be a worse corner than Jayron Hosely. If you disagree with this statement, you are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 We don't have to assume anything. It's physically impossible for any human being to be a worse corner than Jayron Hosely. If you disagree with this statement, you are wrong. That's true, but Hosely was not coming back regardless. Apple wasn't drafted to replace Hosely, he was drafted to replace someone who doesn't need to be replaced right now. It is nice to have three quality corners in todays NFL and maybe one of them can play slot, all I'm saying is two of them don't have any experience there and one of them was not good there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 That's true, but Hosely was not coming back regardless. Apple wasn't drafted to replace Hosely, he was drafted to replace someone who doesn't need to be replaced right now. It is nice to have three quality corners in todays NFL and maybe one of them can play slot, all I'm saying is two of them don't have any experience there and one of them was not good there Once again this is something that Spagnuolo is going to take care of. He figured out how to get his four best pass rushers on the field in 2007, he can figure out how to get his three best CB's on the field as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted June 15, 2016 Author Share Posted June 15, 2016 Well, Cruz "surprised" everyone by joining in at practice yesterday and looked pretty sharp too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightFire Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Here's the video: http://www.giants.com/videos/videos/Victor-Cruz-highlights-from-minicamp/6e76da01-175c-49ed-8237-c1604a2897c6 Doing some real drills is encouraging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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