JMFP Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Mine: Ezekiel Elliott RB. Elliott will fall to #10, Reese will jump on him. Bonus predictions: 2nd round, Giants will take top graded offensive lineman, or top graded cornerback, depending on their chart at the time. My guess is Germain Ifedi, Texas A&M 3rd round Rashard Robinson CB Giants hold off on linebacker until 5th round, take Antonio Morrison ILB Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman_NYG Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Elliot?? If Elliot drops to us, I still think Hargreaves or Floyd will be on the board at the time. I for one don't see the Giants taking Elliot. Even Elliot might not be that good behind the OL that we have right now. But I do admit - Eli, OBJ, Elliot and Cruz back healthy - does look pretty darn good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMFP Posted April 27, 2016 Author Share Posted April 27, 2016 Elliot?? If Elliot drops to us, I still think Hargreaves or Floyd will be on the board at the time. I for one don't see the Giants taking Elliot. Even Elliot might not be that good behind the OL that we have right now. But I do admit - Eli, OBJ, Elliot and Cruz back healthy - does look pretty darn good I agree. I'm not saying it's a good choice. I'm predicting what Reese will do, not giving you my choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 I said it before, it's an interesting draft, mainly because JR is in a save face mode this year. Many people have us going with the safe pick in Lee, Stanley or the risky pick in Floyd. I wouldnt be surprised to see JR go Elliot or Tredwell simply because he wants to make a splash. Who knows what's gonna happen, JR could pick a fucking QB for all I know at 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 The CB Hardgraves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 If he picks a QB at 10, I'd vote to fire his ass before we got to 11, let alone 40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 If Hargreaves, Bruckner, Bosa, Ramsey, Jack or Tunsil don't magically fall to #10, my prediction is Reese will go after OL, likely with Stanley or Conklin. Overall, I'd be happy or at least satisfied with any of the above or: LB Leonard Floyd DE Shaq Lawson *WR Corey Coleman (This is my preferred #1 pick. I'd like to trade down to the teens and take him. Perhaps we can trade with Tennessee for #15 and their 3rd rounder?). WR Josh Doctson (another trade down scenario) Unsure at #10 about: LB Reggie Ragland DL Sheldon Rankins DE Emmanual Ogbah DL Robert Nkemdiche (he's probably overrated, and turns into one of these DEs that gets 30 tackles 2 sacks per season, and that's it) LB Darron Lee (maybe if we trade down) DE Kevin Dodd (maybe if we trade down) Don't really want at #10: Any QB in the first round (or any early rounds, for that matter) The Alabama DTs. As much as I think they'll be good in the NFL, right now our DT position seems fine, plus I foresee Reese resigning Hankins, so how much money between Hankins, Harrison, and Bromley do we really want at this position? WR Will Fuller. Can run verticals, but what else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Get stanley, and then maybe keep eli healthy till he retired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 I'd love a trade-down with Tennessee but I'd want a lot more than a 3rd. They're holding 3 x 2nd right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Who would Tennessee be willing to trade up for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 If there's one thing I know, it's that we're not taking a linebacker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 DL Robert Nkemdiche (he's probably overrated, and turns into one of these DEs that gets 30 tackles 2 sacks per season, and that's it) I've heard that guy definitely has some weird shit going on. He wants to get a pet panther with his signing bonus first thing (who does that), and lived with his football coaches in High School for a while. Definite red flags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 I'd love a trade-down with Tennessee but I'd want a lot more than a 3rd. They're holding 3 x 2nd right now. Using the draft value chart, a 1st and 3rd from Tennessee (and maybe a late round pick) seems appropriate. But the buyer has to be willing to buy, seller willing to sell etc, and it doesn't always conform to the chart values. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/draft/draft-trade-chart/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 If there's one thing I know, it's that we're not taking a linebacker. Looks like they need DBs, DLs, and OL, so any fitting these positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 I've heard that guy definitely has some weird shit going on. He wants to get a pet panther with his signing bonus first thing (who does that), and lived with his football coaches in High School for a while. Definite red flags. Yikes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Chris Collinsworth has us picking WR Corey Coleman even at #10. He makes a good point. In so many words, opposing defenses already have to key in on ODB, which would leave Corey Coleman in a lot of 1:1 situations with opposing DBs; with Corey Coleman's release speed and his plant agility, which looks similar to ODB (minus the long arms and same hands as ODB), this is a nightmare scenario for opposing defenses. Try bumping him, and he may burn you long. Try playing off, and he may in-cut or hitch you all day for 7-10 yards per punch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 A compliment to OBJ is a definite goal for this draft...not sure about the first round though. Still need to think about that RT/RG spot. LB, DE, S are all definite needs still unaddressed. A WR...sure, but only in the 3rd or 4th as far as I'm concerned. Further, the talent at WR just doesn't seem to be there. The clear #1 WR for months, Treadwell, has dropped outside the top 10. And you hear these other names, Doctson, Coleman, etc....but none seem to be cracking the top 10 overall. I guess if nobody is willing or able to make themselves stand out, I'm not making them a top 10 overall pick. Of the players expected to be taken in the near vicinity of #10, I'd take Floyd, Lawson, Hargreaves, Stanley, Jack, Conklin, Elliott all before any of the WRs in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 A compliment to OBJ is a definite goal for this draft...not sure about the first round though. Still need to think about that RT/RG spot. LB, DE, S are all definite needs still unaddressed. A WR...sure, but only in the 3rd or 4th as far as I'm concerned. Further, the talent at WR just doesn't seem to be there. The clear #1 WR for months, Treadwell, has dropped outside the top 10. And you hear these other names, Doctson, Coleman, etc....but none seem to be cracking the top 10 overall. I guess if nobody is willing or able to make themselves stand out, I'm not making them a top 10 overall pick. Of the players expected to be taken in the near vicinity of #10, I'd take Floyd, Lawson, Hargreaves, Stanley, Jack, Conklin, Elliott all before any of the WRs in the draft. Checkout video on youtube (game tape, not the highlights) of Corey Coleman. You'll see why I think he can have the biggest impact for us, greater (in my view) than anyone else who likely will be available #10 or thereafter. Corey Coleman opposite ODB could really throw opposing defenses completely off balance, and open up everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 I agree. I'm not saying it's a good choice. I'm predicting what Reese will do, not giving you my choices. Fuck no. We need your top 3 choices, sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Who would Tennessee be willing to trade up for? Stanley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Using the draft value chart, a 1st and 3rd from Tennessee (and maybe a late round pick) seems appropriate. But the buyer has to be willing to buy, seller willing to sell etc, and it doesn't always conform to the chart values. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/draft/draft-trade-chart/ I bet the could get #45 (Titan's lowest 2nd round pick of three). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Stanley Stanley isnt worth the trade to #10 though. They could probably get him at #15 anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allstarjim Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Chris Collinsworth has us picking WR Corey Coleman even at #10. He makes a good point. In so many words, opposing defenses already have to key in on ODB, which would leave Corey Coleman in a lot of 1:1 situations with opposing DBs; with Corey Coleman's release speed and his plant agility, which looks similar to ODB (minus the long arms and same hands as ODB), this is a nightmare scenario for opposing defenses. Try bumping him, and he may burn you long. Try playing off, and he may in-cut or hitch you all day for 7-10 yards per punch. It is a nightmare scenario for other teams. Between the 20's. Once the space gets crunched up in the redzone, you need a big receiver who is physical and can get up and go get it, high point the ball... That's not Coleman, although he is a really good leaper. In that sense, take Doctson, who has the big frame and terrific ball skills. Doctson one on one is still a mismatch.... if we were to go receiver in the first that is, and I don't see that without a trade down and maybe not even then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 I bet the could get #45 (Titan's lowest 2nd round pick of three). Certainly plausible. As with everything, it's a market and the buyer has to be willing to buy, seller willing to sell. The value chart may be meaningless if a team has different priorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 It is a nightmare scenario for other teams. Between the 20's. Once the space gets crunched up in the redzone, you need a big receiver who is physical and can get up and go get it, high point the ball... That's not Coleman, although he is a really good leaper. In that sense, take Doctson, who has the big frame and terrific ball skills. Doctson one on one is still a mismatch.... if we were to go receiver in the first that is, and I don't see that without a trade down and maybe not even then. Yeah I'm a Doctson fan, if the Giants can land him in round two I'd be ecstatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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