Mr. P Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Aaron Wilson @AaronWilson_NFL 1m1 minute ago Eagles get Browns' second overall pick, 2017 4th-rd pick; Browns get eighth pick, 2016 3rd-rd, 4th-rd picks; 2017 1st-rd pick, 2018 2nd-rder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Fuck. I new I should have made bets that the Browns weren't drafting a QB at #2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Starting to deal 2018 draft picks in 2016....that's crazy. Browns have top 2 picks in 2016 4th round now if I'm looking at it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Probably for a QB, no? If so, this is great news. Only 7 picks to worry about before us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allstarjim Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 In all likelihood the Eagles are playing a rookie QB, meaning they will probably struggle, and Browns could end up with 2 picks in the top 10 next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 In all likelihood the Eagles are playing a rookie QB, meaning they will probably struggle, and Browns could end up with 2 picks in the top 10 next year. So if we totally bomb this year, next year Cowher can trade out of the #1 overall pick and pick up two firsts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Big trades for backup QB's five years from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Don't understand Philly paying that kind of money to Bradford and Daniels while investing this heavy draft-wise on a QB. Seems like a lot of resources on one position. Not sure of the contract structure for Bradford and Daniels, but if they're locked in with big guaranteed money...trading up for a QB doesn't seem to make a ton of sense. Of course, trading up for a non-QB doesn't seem to make a lot of sense either. This move is more of a head-scratcher to me than the Titans/Rams trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Don't understand Philly paying that kind of money to Bradford and Daniels while investing this heavy draft-wise on a QB. Seems like a lot of resources on one position. Not sure of the contract structure for Bradford and Daniels, but if they're locked in with big guaranteed money...trading up for a QB doesn't seem to make a ton of sense. Of course, trading up for a non-QB doesn't seem to make a lot of sense either. This move is more of a head-scratcher to me than the Titans/Rams trade. Absolutely has to be a QB or Financial Field will be torched by Eagle fans. 1. You have to be absolutely certain who the Rams are picking first. It isn't a bad move but a three year plan. Bradford isn't durable, Daniels is a reflection of that and has a familiarity with Pederson. I don't have very high expectations of either QB and they will both require either a dumb down offense or a couple of years of re-education. Eagles managed to clean house of the Kelly years regardless of cost in a month, no point in balking at the risk or cost of a QB now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Absolutely has to be a QB or Financial Field will be torched by Eagle fans. 1. You have to be absolutely certain who the Rams are picking first. It isn't a bad move but a three year plan. Bradford isn't durable, Daniels is a reflection of that and has a familiarity with Pederson. I don't have very high expectations of either QB and they will both require either a dumb down offense or a couple of years of re-education. Eagles managed to clean house of the Kelly years regardless of cost in a month, no point in balking at the risk or cost of a QB now. Well, here's hoping the Rams take the QB the Eagles want and that the Eagles are hosed financially, at least in the short term, with the Bradford and Daniels deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 In all likelihood the Eagles are playing a rookie QB, meaning they will probably struggle, and Browns could end up with 2 picks in the top 10 next year. Which they will promptly use on a bag of batting practice baseballs and a Betamax VCR tape of "Chariots of Fire" C. Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Weird to think that this year teams are making a push for QBs, from what I've read and understand Goff and Wentz arnt nearly as QB ready as guys like Luck and Ryan and such. But I guess you go and get your guy. Wonder if the Eagles have some inside info on who the Rams are going for because you have to be 100% sure they arnt going to take your guy to make this type of move. Or the Eagles just dont fucking care and want someone else besides Bradford leading the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Or they think both guys are that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Holy shit, now the Chargers are getting a lot of interest in the #3 pick. This draft is crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balloonknot Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Is there such a lack of high end talent in this draft that teams are scrambling to get as high as they can? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Weird to think that this year teams are making a push for QBs, from what I've read and understand Goff and Wentz arnt nearly as QB ready as guys like Luck and Ryan and such. But I guess you go and get your guy. Wonder if the Eagles have some inside info on who the Rams are going for because you have to be 100% sure they arnt going to take your guy to make this type of move. Or the Eagles just dont fucking care and want someone else besides Bradford leading the team. The QB situation in the NFL has teams scrambling, taking big risks with few success stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Don't understand Philly paying that kind of money to Bradford and Daniels while investing this heavy draft-wise on a QB. Seems like a lot of resources on one position. Not sure of the contract structure for Bradford and Daniels, but if they're locked in with big guaranteed money...trading up for a QB doesn't seem to make a ton of sense. Of course, trading up for a non-QB doesn't seem to make a lot of sense either. This move is more of a head-scratcher to me than the Titans/Rams trade. Oh and here's the money situation since you asked earlier "The problem I see right now in Philadelphia is they have too many quarterbacks to be friendly with," Gruden said on Thursday, via ESPN.com. "How are they going to distribute any reps and get anybody ready when you've got Sam Bradford making $18 million, you gotChase Daniel, who's a backup, making $7 million?" It's actually worse than that: Daniel's contract includes $12 million in guarantees, Bradford's includes $22 million in guarantees, and whomever comes in with the No. 2 pick will get a contract that includes at least $24 million in guarantees. That's a lot of money for a position where only one guy can play at a time. "I don't know how you're going to get these guys all reps and get them all ready, but Doug Pederson will have to answer that," Gruden said. "That will be a challenge." http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25563553/report-sam-bradford-likely-to-ask-eagles-for-trade-out-of-philadelphia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allstarjim Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 I think the Chargers want an OT. They sure could use Ramsey to fill Weddle's shoes, but they need the OT help more. They could take Tunsil, but if they traded with the Jags at 5, they could still get Tunsil and pick up an extra pick... I think the Jags would love to get Ramsey on their defense. Or they could trade back farther in the top 10 and take Ronnie Stanley if Tunsil doesn't go back that far and that would work out fine for them as well. The Chargers were really helped by both the Titans and Browns trading back... they are sitting pretty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 I think the Chargers want an OT. They sure could use Ramsey to fill Weddle's shoes, but they need the OT help more. They could take Tunsil, but if they traded with the Jags at 5, they could still get Tunsil and pick up an extra pick... I think the Jags would love to get Ramsey on their defense. Or they could trade back farther in the top 10 and take Ronnie Stanley if Tunsil doesn't go back that far and that would work out fine for them as well. The Chargers were really helped by both the Titans and Browns trading back... they are sitting pretty. I think they need a 3-4 DE more than an OT, and take Buckner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allstarjim Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 I think they need a 3-4 DE more than an OT, and take Buckner. Possible, and that would also justify a move back 2-3 spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Over the last 10 years, there have been 10 instances of teams trading up in the first round to select a quarterback. Only two of those 10 quarterbacks -- Teddy Bridgewater and Joe Flacco -- are still starting for the team that selected him. Only three of the 10 targets could charitably be described as successful picks: Bridgewater, Flacco and Jay Cutler by the Broncos in 2006. A trade up for a quarterback more often led to a rollercoaster ride that ultimately crashed. Johnny Manziel, Robert Griffin III, Mark Sanchez, Tim Tebow, Josh Freeman, Brady Quinn and Blaine Gabbert are a who's who of shattered expectations over the last decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindgreed1 Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Pedersen want's his own QB. He's from the Reid camp and he saw the success DMac brought to Reid. Bradford's money was 11 mil guaranteed which he collected in Feb. Now he wants to be traded. I doubt that will happen since he already got his big money from us. The price for him won't be workable. It's a stupid move for him, as he was already named the starter and could have retired an Eagle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 retire an Eagle?....not with an incoming draft pick he wouldn't. Unless he were content to be a backup, in which case, why would anybody want him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lughead Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 So if we totally bomb this year, next year Cowher can trade out of the #1 overall pick and pick up two firsts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Maybe they have a super hard-on for Jalen Ramsey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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