Gman329 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Ugh. See what you mean..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lughead Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Josh McDaniels interested in Tennessee job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allstarjim Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Josh McDaniels interested in Tennessee job. He must like Mariota. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 There will be some money freed up through cuts and restructures. Eli has always stepped up to the plate for a restructure to help the team. I wouldn't characterize the one player whose salary is killing this organization's cap as "stepping to the plate"... when you make a whole lot more than Tom Brady, something is seriously wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA4M Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 No matter who comes to the Giants, this may turn out to be a blessing in disguise losing Coughlin. now Reese will be under a lot more pressure to to make something happen or he'll be gone too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I just want to know how keeping Reese, promoting mcadoo and keeping spagnulo changes anything. This wasn't one man's fault. Nobody was above average Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I just want to know how keeping Reese, promoting mcadoo and keeping spagnulo changes anything. This wasn't one man's fault. Nobody was above average I don't get that either. I think McAdoo's horrific red-zone playcalling had more to do with the losses than Coughlin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 No matter who comes to the Giants, this may turn out to be a blessing in disguise losing Coughlin. now Reese will be under a lot more pressure to to make something happen or he'll be gone too. Coughlin's performance over the last few years and especially this year is worthy of firing... Yes I get we appreciate the 2 trophies... so just as he gets the credit for those, he should get the blame for where we are now... in other words, we should blame him for the last few seasons just as much as we credit him for those 2 SBs. I can think of many many instances where I was scratching my head at his decisions... like deciding to go for it on 4th down against he Jets instead of taking the 3 points... Reese as others have pointed out seems to have learned from his mistakes and is getting better whereas Coughlin is getting worse. Thanks Coach... I appreciate the decade+... I really do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA4M Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 The timing of this was the whole thing. 12 years and the ownership thinking he wasn't going to be around much longer anyway. In a way it's a time to start new, but I just don't believe with this roster changing coaches will do much. man, look at what he had to play with!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA4M Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Coughlin's performance over the last few years and especially this year is worthy of firing... Yes I get we appreciate the 2 trophies... so just as he gets the credit for those, he should get the blame for where we are now... in other words, we should blame him for the last few seasons just as much as we credit him for those 2 SBs. I can think of many many instances where I was scratching my head at his decisions... like deciding to go for it on 4th down against he Jets instead of taking the 3 points... Reese as others have pointed out seems to have learned from his mistakes and is getting better whereas Coughlin is getting worse. Thanks Coach... I appreciate the decade+... I really do. I respect everyones opinion and maybe the next guy won't have all the roster issues we've had for a few years. you're right, he's made his mistakes too.....but how many bonehead mistakes have the players made for whatever reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightFire Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I don't get that either. I think McAdoo's horrific red-zone playcalling had more to do with the losses than Coughlin. And refusal to slow down the O play calling under 2 minutes. I hope the new coach fires the entire strength and conditioning group and hires Chip Kelley's group (if available). Coughlin was fired again because of the same issues with the Jaguars. Hell bring in Tiki Barber for an interview. Guy clearly knew something about staying healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA4M Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Barber was better known for being a team cancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Barber was better know for being a team cancer. I think the technical term is actually pain in the ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA4M Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I think the technical term is actually pain in the ass. It's a Shame him and Shockey were always bellyaching. they were good players that let too much go to their heads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightFire Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I think the technical term is actually pain in the ass. Well to be fair if all the players retired the same year as Tiki they would have the same opinion. Strahan had to basically force Coughlin to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Well to be fair if all the players retired the same year as Tiki they would have the same opinion. Strahan had to basically force Coughlin to change. Not necessarily. Fred Taylor hated him, then realized he was wrong to do so. It wasn't until years later, after Taylor was cut by the Jaguars in 2009 and signed with Bill Belichick's Patriots, that he said Coughlin's methods made sense. He ran up to Coughlin when the teams met in 2009 (presumably in the preseason) and told him, "I get it now." http://jacksonville.com/sports/football/jaguars/2012-06-09/story/nfl-confidential-fred-taylor-recalls-early-days-jaguars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allstarjim Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Not necessarily. Fred Taylor hated him, then realized he was wrong to do so. http://jacksonville.com/sports/football/jaguars/2012-06-09/story/nfl-confidential-fred-taylor-recalls-early-days-jaguars Point is Pdub, they DID have the same opinion, before Coughlin changed. Strahan has said so multiple times, and Coughlin's transformation from '06 to '07 is well documented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I remember hearing that Pete Micthell said he was tough, but he'd play for him again in a heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK-Giantsfan Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Mr Mara should ring Bill Belichick and offer him 100 M to come here as HC and GM ( then kick out Jerry ) ...... Sorry , I've been drinking......The Giants are probably the only team BB would ever consider ( but he would never leave NE whilst Brady was still playing ) ........ Shame ! this Glenmorangie is good though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I'm still waiting to read about the Giants interviewing Kevin Gilbride Jr for the head coach position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA4M Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 I'm still waiting to read about the Giants interviewing Kevin Gilbride Jr for the head coach position At this point you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 I respect everyones opinion and maybe the next guy won't have all the roster issues we've had for a few years. you're right, he's made his mistakes too.....but how many bonehead mistakes have the players made for whatever reason? Character matters... Reese needs to value character also... Not just athletic ability... And coaches aren't blameless either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 At this point you never know. They haven't picked a head coach yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeGL Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Probably have been talk about this already, but does anyone have interest in Lovie Smith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightFire Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 I just want to know how keeping Reese, promoting mcadoo and keeping spagnulo changes anything. This wasn't one man's fault. Nobody was above average That would have the markings of Handley 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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