Sephiroth Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Technically, you'd have to say no. It's not like mathematically they're eliminated or that no team in history has climbed out of an 0-3 hole to make the playoffs. However, realistically... look at this team. Talent is short and already there's nine guys that are out for the game, the best defensive player is out until who knows when, we have one good WR, no difference-making running backs, and maybe one good linebacker... not to mention that the right side of the OL is terrible. Marshall Newhouse looks like a serviceable backup but at the end of the day, he's not a starter and Geoff Schwartz is just flat-out terrible. If we drop this game, I think we're done. On the other hand, the remaining games before the bye all look winnable, so I guess I'm kind of on the fence. If we win, I think we may start a run... a little confidence goes a long way with a team like this. What do you all think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Nah. 7-9 might be good enough to win the division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK-Giantsfan Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 yes it is .............a must win in my books ........total meltdown if we go 0-3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA4M Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Nah. 7-9 might be good enough to win the division Nah, Boys and Eagles will get better. If they don't, good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppodlesny Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 mathematically no, but let's face it ... if you can't beat the lowly redskins, you have no business in the post season ... and the game is at home ... so a loss would be horrific Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightFire Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I'd say so. Starting the season 0-2 in the division would not be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Nope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 0-3 overall, 0-2 in the division, 0-3 in the NFC...with the Bills, Patriots, Jets, 49ers, and 4 more division games that are often tough games before the season wraps up...yeah, tonight's game really is a must win. Mathmatically, sure, we'd still be in it, but realistically, it'd be crushing to the point that Cruz coming back next week and the promise that is OBJ/Cruz wouldn't hold much meaning anymore. Further, for this game, I think a loss does more damage than a win does any good. But either way you look at it, it's a must win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Tonight means as much as the last two and every game is a must win. Not losing from a lack of talent but from failure to finish games in the fourth quarter. Now with a couple of key players most likely to miss the game and the chance of more injuries from a short turn around makes this a risky game. I'd rather get everyone out healthier than a win and make up for it later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman_NYG Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 When in the world of motherfucks are we gonna see a health OBJ and Cruz on the field together?? And we wont have to rely on bums like Parker and Reuben? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMFP Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Technically, you'd have to say no. It's not like mathematically they're eliminated or that no team in history has climbed out of an 0-3 hole to make the playoffs. However, realistically... look at this team. Talent is short and already there's nine guys that are out for the game, the best defensive player is out until who knows when, we have one good WR, no difference-making running backs, and maybe one good linebacker... not to mention that the right side of the OL is terrible. Marshall Newhouse looks like a serviceable backup but at the end of the day, he's not a starter and Geoff Schwartz is just flat-out terrible. If we drop this game, I think we're done. On the other hand, the remaining games before the bye all look winnable, so I guess I'm kind of on the fence. If we win, I think we may start a run... a little confidence goes a long way with a team like this. What do you all think? I agree. The difference between 1-2 and 0-3 is absolutely huge. This team loses tonight, and it's DVR time for the rest of the year, at least for me. 0-3 and the Giants aren't even sniffing the chance of a .500 record until mid-season. 1-2 and then the Giants have a 1/2 week bye to get some guys back, and hopefully get back to par in week 4. The division looks like a mess, but can sort itself out quickly, and not to the Giants benefit if they continue to flounder. I think the Eagles will eventually get their shit together, and the Redskins might have the running game and defense to contend with a game-manager at QB, given the state of their division rivals. Regardless of their injuries, the Cowboys are still two games up, and still have a solid offensive line. And now with Matt Cassell, they an unspectacular, but legit NFL QB. I'm not surprised the Giants are 0-2. I'm surprised they are 0-2 because their QB and coaching staff have combined to blow 2 wins. That to me is the biggest surprise of this season. If I base my prediction on 2007/2011 Eli & Tom, then this team pulls some magic out of it's ass. If I base my prediction on the last 3+ years, I think tonight is going to suck all around, it will be an ugly loss, not even close, and the Eli/Coughlin era unofficially ends tonight. The realist in me says I should give the greatest weight to the most recent performance. The optimist in me says I've counted this team out many times since Eli has been drafted, and been wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I agree. The difference between 1-2 and 0-3 is absolutely huge. This team loses tonight, and it's DVR time for the rest of the year, at least for me. 0-3 and the Giants aren't even sniffing the chance of a .500 record until mid-season. 1-2 and then the Giants have a 1/2 week bye to get some guys back, and hopefully get back to par in week 4. The division looks like a mess, but can sort itself out quickly, and not to the Giants benefit if they continue to flounder. I think the Eagles will eventually get their shit together, and the Redskins might have the running game and defense to contend with a game-manager at QB, given the state of their division rivals. Regardless of their injuries, the Cowboys are still two games up, and still have a solid offensive line. And now with Matt Cassell, they an unspectacular, but legit NFL QB. I'm not surprised the Giants are 0-2. I'm surprised they are 0-2 because their QB and coaching staff have combined to blow 2 wins. That to me is the biggest surprise of this season. If I base my prediction on 2007/2011 Eli & Tom, then this team pulls some magic out of it's ass. If I base my prediction on the last 2+ years, I think tonight is going to suck all around, it will be an ugly loss, not even close, and the Eli/Coughlin era unofficially ends tonight. The realist in me says I should give the greatest weight to the most recent performance. The optimist in me says I've counted this team out many times since Eli has been drafted, and been wrong. Like your Avatar, Joe. We lost a great character yesterday. I remember sitting in Pinky's Pizza in 2007, we were 0-2 and down 17-3 at halftime to the Skins. Rallied back to win that game and you know what happened after that. Not saying that will happen but it can't if we don't take that first step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted September 24, 2015 Author Share Posted September 24, 2015 Like your Avatar, Joe. We lost a great character yesterday. What about my avatar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMFP Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Like your Avatar, Joe. We lost a great character yesterday. I remember sitting in Pinky's Pizza in 2007, we were 0-2 and down 17-3 at halftime to the Skins. Rallied back to win that game and you know what happened after that. Not saying that will happen but it can't if we don't take that first step. Yogi was my all time favorite Yankee. Yeah, these guys deserve some faith, but seems like the best of times was a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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