Sephiroth Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 ...but at least 3 of Eli's picks were directed at guess who? Ruben Randle. Also, it was awesome watching Randle totally pull a Plax Burress and watch the defender take the ball and run with it while old Rubes casually strolled around the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeGL Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Well, at least we have Odell now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I noticed that too. But in fairness to Randle, on only one of those plays did I get the sense that he ran the wrong route. Just some bad fucking throws this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA4M Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I've always been an Eli fan, but for a Vet QB.....he's not worth it anymore. Off the wagon on him and he needs to go ASAP before this team can move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Eh, everyone has a bad game every now and then unless your name is Rueben Randle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I've always been an Eli fan, but for a Vet QB.....he's not worth it anymore. Off the wagon on him and he needs to go ASAP before this team can move on. One could argue he was never worth it. When you look at what we gave up to get him over Rivers or Roethlisberger...has Eli been THAT much better? Yes, we've won two superbowls with him and yes, he's been clutch at moments. But we gave up a shit ton to get him over those other two and I've never been convinced that Eli was THAT far beyond those two. In other words, I think Rivers or Roethlisberger could've won those two superbowls just as easily on the teams that Eli led. And now, Eli's contract outweighs his performance. He's signed through 2015 (FA is Spring 2016) and I would not at all be surprised to see the Giants extend him this offseason so Eli can retire a Giant. That said, if that does happen, it better be for a deal that is SIGNIFICANTLY more cap friendly than the one he will wrap up here after next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 One could argue he was never worth it. When you look at what we gave up to get him over Rivers or Roethlisberger...has Eli been THAT much better? Yes, we've won two superbowls with him and yes, he's been clutch at moments. But we gave up a shit ton to get him over those other two and I've never been convinced that Eli was THAT far beyond those two. In other words, I think Rivers or Roethlisberger could've won those two superbowls just as easily on the teams that Eli led. And now, Eli's contract outweighs his performance. He's signed through 2015 (FA is Spring 2016) and I would not at all be surprised to see the Giants extend him this offseason so Eli can retire a Giant. That said, if that does happen, it better be for a deal that is SIGNIFICANTLY more cap friendly than the one he will wrap up here after next season. One could argue he was never worth it. When you look at what we gave up to get him over Rivers or Roethlisberger...has Eli been THAT much better? Yes, we've won two superbowls with him and yes, he's been clutch at moments. But we gave up a shit ton to get him over those other two and I've never been convinced that Eli was THAT far beyond those two. In other words, I think Rivers or Roethlisberger could've won those two superbowls just as easily on the teams that Eli led. And now, Eli's contract outweighs his performance. He's signed through 2015 (FA is Spring 2016) and I would not at all be surprised to see the Giants extend him this offseason so Eli can retire a Giant. That said, if that does happen, it better be for a deal that is SIGNIFICANTLY more cap friendly than the one he will wrap up here after next season. I agree with you... gotta keep a low profile... before I get painted with the Jack Stroud brush... :ph34r: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightFire Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 One of you crazy number crunchers should look up what percentage of INTs are to Randle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 One of you crazy number crunchers should look up what percentage of INTs are to Randle. I'm sure it will pop up on some Giant's game during the cast. Those NFL statisticians come up with the weirdest stats to show during a game, I'd like to see how many tipped passes have led to INTs in Eli's career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 One of you crazy number crunchers should look up what percentage of INTs are to Randle. I saw more potential in Ramses Barden than I ever saw in Randle... He must be one of Coughlin's and/or Reeses' pet... Must have gotten the "Special" pictures of Coughlin getting cornholed in leather from Tynes or something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 "Neither Here Nor There" i.e., an accurate description of Rueben Randle's route running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 "Neither Here Nor There" i.e., an accurate description of Rueben Randle's route running. He just flat out upsets me... I would much rather have the fifth stringer out there with guts and a will to the ball than Mr. Airheadness... I mean really is he Coughlin's secret son-in-law or something... his love child with Angela Davis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I don't think any of those INTs were on Randle. The bigger question is why they keep trying to force it to him when he's blanketed by defenders? Eli stares him down something awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 He just flat out upsets me... I would much rather have the fifth stringer out there with guts and a will to the ball than Mr. Airheadness... I mean really is he Coughlin's secret son-in-law or something... his love child with Angela Davis? love child with Angela Davis, LOL. Lynch had a good observation during the game yesterday though.... that Randle is far more consistent on in-breaking routes than on routes outside the numbers. I never thought about it before, but I think he was dead on about that, it bore itself out over and over again yesterday. And I guess thats a reason for optimism too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 One could argue he was never worth it. When you look at what we gave up to get him over Rivers or Roethlisberger...has Eli been THAT much better? Yes, we've won two superbowls with him and yes, he's been clutch at moments. But we gave up a shit ton to get him over those other two and I've never been convinced that Eli was THAT far beyond those two. In other words, I think Rivers or Roethlisberger could've won those two superbowls just as easily on the teams that Eli led. And now, Eli's contract outweighs his performance. He's signed through 2015 (FA is Spring 2016) and I would not at all be surprised to see the Giants extend him this offseason so Eli can retire a Giant. That said, if that does happen, it better be for a deal that is SIGNIFICANTLY more cap friendly than the one he will wrap up here after next season. All of this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 4 of eli's interceptions this season were randle targets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA4M Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 One could argue he was never worth it. When you look at what we gave up to get him over Rivers or Roethlisberger...has Eli been THAT much better? Yes, we've won two superbowls with him and yes, he's been clutch at moments. But we gave up a shit ton to get him over those other two and I've never been convinced that Eli was THAT far beyond those two. In other words, I think Rivers or Roethlisberger could've won those two superbowls just as easily on the teams that Eli led. And now, Eli's contract outweighs his performance. He's signed through 2015 (FA is Spring 2016) and I would not at all be surprised to see the Giants extend him this offseason so Eli can retire a Giant. That said, if that does happen, it better be for a deal that is SIGNIFICANTLY more cap friendly than the one he will wrap up here after next season. This is the concern for me, From here on, this is what we'll see in too many games. He's the guy that touches the ball on every play. so we live and die with what he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA4M Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 4 of eli's interceptions this season were randle targets Dude is a love/hate for me. throw the ball to fucking ODB! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 One of you crazy number crunchers should look up what percentage of INTs are to Randle. While no excuse for Randle.. he is not a first round pic and is not a very good WR... however Eli's interceptions have been the hallmark of his career... Randle or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightFire Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 4 of eli's interceptions this season were randle targets Hmmmm...out of 11 INTs that is not as bad as I had thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 At some stage, the quarterback has to look up and say, dont throw it, hes not there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Hmmmm...out of 11 INTs that is not as bad as I had thought. it's from pff so who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 ...but at least 3 of Eli's picks were directed at guess who? Ruben Randle. Also, it was awesome watching Randle totally pull a Plax Burress and watch the defender take the ball and run with it while old Rubes casually strolled around the field. That one handed stab at the ball in the corner of the endzone when he could have laid out and actually made a play was such a classic Rube move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Hmmmm...out of 11 INTs that is not as bad as I had thought. When there's about 6 guys he could be targeting on most pass plays, that's pretty bad...that's almost 40% of the picks targeting one player... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 When there's about 6 guys he could be targeting on most pass plays, that's pretty bad...that's almost 40% of the picks targeting one player... That could be that either the other guys are not creating space or Eli is under siege most every snap. It was that way yesterday when Giants lost Pugh. But no one here ever thought Randle was good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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