Sephiroth Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Is it just me, or is his career effectively over? I can't think of a single player who came back from a patellar tear and was the same guy after the surgery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balloonknot Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 2 years. It will take 2 years for him to be right if he ever is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 I'd think his career was over because he can't catch the ball anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BronxRik Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 2 years. I will take 2 years for him to be right if he ever is If that's true, he'll ride the bench thru next season and we'll send him to Indy where he'll make up half of the Nicks/Cruz dynamic duo part deux. Colts take the SB in '16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMFP Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 I wish him the best, but sounds like a devastating injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 cadillac williams, correll buckhalter, nate allen. these guys weren't great players but they rounded back into their pre-injury form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 cadillac williams, correll buckhalter, nate allen. these guys weren't great players but they rounded back into their pre-injury form what about dixon, from the giants. didn't he come back from 2 of those? i mean hixon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 That was acl. He tore it a third time with chi this year too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Atleast it was an early-ish season injury (guess the only positive you can say about it) He'll have this season and all off season to rest and rehab plus he's still young. He's already went under the knife from what I understand and if he rehabs right there's no reason he cant return to decent form. He might not be an 1 or 2 WR after it, but I would imagine he could still be an effective slot. Although the article I read basically said he'll never be the same player, but you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 I wish him the best, but sounds like a devastating injury. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 That game wasn't over until Cruz's knee went. It was about to be a 2 score game with plenty of time left against a team that doesn't protect the clock (which as a football fan is the one thing that I don't like about the Chip Kelly offense... they aren't going to win shit of any significance as long as they're the kind of team that runs plays with ten seconds on the playclock while nursing a lead). Then the knee went and you could see all the enthusiasm go out of the Giants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 That game wasn't over until Cruz's knee went. It was about to be a 2 score game with plenty of time left against a team that doesn't protect the clock (which as a football fan is the one thing that I don't like about the Chip Kelly offense... they aren't going to win shit of any significance as long as they're the kind of team that runs plays with ten seconds on the playclock while nursing a lead). Then the knee went and you could see all the enthusiasm go out of the Giants. similar to the Theisman injury... they were brought back to the reality of the fragility of life as opposed to being invincible football players... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 similar to the Theisman injury... they were brought back to the reality of the fragility of life as opposed to being invincible football players... Interesting, I was too young then to remember how that game turned out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Interesting, I was too young then to remember how that game turned out. The Giants were winning... a big difference there... ... Theisman got his leg broke in a compound fracture...LT went crazy with remorse and guilt...and the Giants tanked the rest of the game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted October 14, 2014 Author Share Posted October 14, 2014 This article was actually really encouraging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishgutmartyr Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 This article was actually really encouraging. The thing is, Joe Klecko wasn't exactly known for his speed. He was a bull, and his demands on his knees were far different than Cruz' demands. Incredible, tough player, and I always thought he was the best player on that Jets line; but really this is apples and oranges. It's sickening how we've had some of the best WR talent this team has seen since Homer Jones/Del Shofner, and each one had some potentially career threatening injury within a couple years. Could you imagine the damage Manning could have done with a wideout set that had Smith, Nicks, and Cruz all healthy--even if it was for only a couple of seasons? Oh, well. We're just going to have to hope for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 The thing is, Joe Klecko wasn't exactly known for his speed. He was a bull, and his demands on his knees were far different than Cruz' demands. Incredible, tough player, and I always thought he was the best player on that Jets line; but really this is apples and oranges. It's sickening how we've had some of the best WR talent this team has seen since Homer Jones/Del Shofner, and each one had some potentially career threatening injury within a couple years. Could you imagine the damage Manning could have done with a wideout set that had Smith, Nicks, and Cruz all healthy--even if it was for only a couple of seasons? Oh, well. We're just going to have to hope for the best. ::sigh:: what might have been.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 The thing is, Joe Klecko wasn't exactly known for his speed. He was a bull, and his demands on his knees were far different than Cruz' demands. Incredible, tough player, and I always thought he was the best player on that Jets line; but really this is apples and oranges. It's sickening how we've had some of the best WR talent this team has seen since Homer Jones/Del Shofner, and each one had some potentially career threatening injury within a couple years. Could you imagine the damage Manning could have done with a wideout set that had Smith, Nicks, and Cruz all healthy--even if it was for only a couple of seasons? Oh, well. We're just going to have to hope for the best. woah fish. How about Toomer, Burress? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 at least they put it all together long enough for one superbowl run i guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishgutmartyr Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 woah fish. How about Toomer, Burress? Good players. But those three could have been (and hopefully in Cruz' case) much, much more. A healthy Nicks was far more dynamic than Burress--Burress was able to break a couple every season: Nicks was a threat every time he caught the ball. Toomer was very good as a possession receiver, but Smith was better and more consistent. Neither one of Burress/Toomer were capable of the YACs those three were getting. Both Shofner and Jones were getting 1,000+ yard seasons consistently back when they were playing 14 games. That's the level of talent you could compare Smith, Cruz, and Nicks to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 The thing is, Joe Klecko wasn't exactly known for his speed. He was a bull, and his demands on his knees were far different than Cruz' demands. Incredible, tough player, and I always thought he was the best player on that Jets line; but really this is apples and oranges. It's sickening how we've had some of the best WR talent this team has seen since Homer Jones/Del Shofner, and each one had some potentially career threatening injury within a couple years. Could you imagine the damage Manning could have done with a wideout set that had Smith, Nicks, and Cruz all healthy--even if it was for only a couple of seasons? Oh, well. We're just going to have to hope for the best. ::sigh:: what might have been.... Seeing them in their prime made me understand what is was like to be a 69'er fan back in the Montana...Jerry Rice days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Good players. But those three could have been (and hopefully in Cruz' case) much, much more. A healthy Nicks was far more dynamic than Burress--Burress was able to break a couple every season: Nicks was a threat every time he caught the ball. Toomer was very good as a possession receiver, but Smith was better and more consistent. Neither one of Burress/Toomer were capable of the YACs those three were getting. Both Shofner and Jones were getting 1,000+ yard seasons consistently back when they were playing 14 games. That's the level of talent you could compare Smith, Cruz, and Nicks to. this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 The thing is, Joe Klecko wasn't exactly known for his speed. He was a bull, and his demands on his knees were far different than Cruz' demands. Incredible, tough player, and I always thought he was the best player on that Jets line; but really this is apples and oranges. It's sickening how we've had some of the best WR talent this team has seen since Homer Jones/Del Shofner, and each one had some potentially career threatening injury within a couple years. Could you imagine the damage Manning could have done with a wideout set that had Smith, Nicks, and Cruz all healthy--even if it was for only a couple of seasons? Oh, well. We're just going to have to hope for the best. True, but there's something to be said about a much bigger dude who pushes around other really big dudes and carries around all that weight on a surgically repaired knee...I'm not saying it isn't apples and oranges but it may be a closer comparison than you think. I think the most interesting thing to take from that article is the thought that Cruz was probably nursing a sore knee as it was. And he's suffered at least one sprain in the past year. What I've read also indicates that the injury rarely happens in isolation and typically, previous and even current knee injuries contribute to that kind of tear. Just goes to show that players playing while nursing injuries can often further injure themselves. It might also explain Cruz's, in my view, lack of explosiveness during this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 True, but there's something to be said about a much bigger dude who pushes around other really big dudes and carries around all that weight on a surgically repaired knee...I'm not saying it isn't apples and oranges but it may be a closer comparison than you think. I think the most interesting thing to take from that article is the thought that Cruz was probably nursing a sore knee as it was. And he's suffered at least one sprain in the past year. What I've read also indicates that the injury rarely happens in isolation and typically, previous and even current knee injuries contribute to that kind of tear. Just goes to show that players playing while nursing injuries can often further injure themselves. It might also explain Cruz's, in my view, lack of explosiveness during this season. That maybe but I'd fathom to say that part of the knee will have more to do with speed and agility than stiffing other people... I had my surgery to repair a torn achilles back in 2010.. it's (or at least feels) stronger than it was before but it's also harder in the sense that it's more stiff than the other one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osi724dasack Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 He will never be the same. Not even close. IMO. We need to draft atleast 2 WRs next year and maybe cut ties with Randle. This team needs work. Not much but it def needs work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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