JMFP Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Looking at these stats, I can't help but hope a change at coordinator, along with improvement on the offensive line and running back, will help these numbers.....full link/story below....... ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/06/24/qbs-in-focus-eli-manning/ QBs in Focus: Eli Manning Steve Palazzolo | June 24, 2014 Though we certainly miss football during the offseason, it’s always a good time to take a step back and analyze our plethora of data. We’re often so busy grading and collecting data during the season that we’re unable to put a lot of the information to good use. With that said, we’ve decided to declare June as “QB Month” as we break down NFL quarterbacks every which way. We’re going to examine quarterbacks from a number of situations before looking at each of them individually. The grades and numbers should reveal each quarterback’s strengths and weaknesses from the 2013 season. As we go through this series, it’s important to understand the relationship between QB Rating (NFL’s version) and PFF Grade. While QB Rating is obviously supposed to be a QB statistic, it’s actually a better gauge of what the entire offense did in a given situation. This is the type of information that is actually extremely valuable to our NFL team customers as their game planning efforts must go towards stopping an entire passing offense, not just the quarterback. If the quarterback throws an easy dump off pass to the RB who then weaves through the defense for the touchdown, it’s certainly not a great indicator of quarterbacking skill as it is the running back and defense accounting for the majority of the work on the play. Of course the QB Rating will look quite shiny in that situation. On the other hand, PFF Grade is a good indicator of how well the quarterback actually performed in a given situation. Whether they throw an accurate pass that was dropped, or perhaps an inaccurate one that should have been intercepted and the defense dropped, the PFF grade will account for those situations with a positive and a negative grade respectively while QB Rating will simply reflect the 0-for-1 passing. It’s important to distinguish between QB Rating and PFF grade, though there’s a good chance they’ll match up in most situations. After taking a look at the entire league in various situations, it’s time to break down each quarterback individually. Eli Manning All categories with a * are normalized so that the league average is 0.0. Positives • Among the league’s best on passes in the 5-10 yard range (+6.5).• Graded at +9.1 on 3rd-and-Medium.• Threw best between the numbers (+3.8).• Graded at +11.6 when throwing to outside wide receivers.• Did his best work when throwing in <= 2.0 seconds (+2.6) and the 3.1-to-3.5-second range (+5.0).• Best routes were slants (+6.9), ins (+5.4), and comebacks (+5.3).• Graded at +2.7 on 4-to-6-yard drop-backs Negatives • Graded at -11.5 on first down.• Struggled at the 11-to-20-yard range (-10.9).• Graded at -3.6 when throwing outside the numbers to the right.• Graded at -13.9 when under pressure and -7.3 when blitzed.• At his worst on drop-backs of at least 9 yards (-9.1).• Struggled on drop-backs lasting 2.1 to 2.5 seconds (-8.6) and those lasting at least 3.6 seconds (-5.0).• At his worst when throwing the out route (-7.3). Tendencies • Used play action only 15.8% of the time, well below the league average.• Threw 46.5% of his passes to outside wide receivers, above the league average.• Threw 7.0% of his passes beyond 30 yards in the air, third-highest in the league.• Threw the third-highest percentages of comebacks at 5.0% of his attempts.• Faced pressure in non-blitz situations 37.6% of the time, well above the league average. For the entire set of “Quarterbacks in Focus” posts, click here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 WTF did either Eli or Saint Gilbride have against play action...the Ultimate QB's Friend...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Do you have to be injured to get the Comeback Player of the Year Award...cause I would bet #10 is going to the best we have seen yet this coming year. C. Wgaon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balloonknot Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 WTF did either Eli or Saint Gilbride have against play action...the Ultimate QB's Friend...? Well considering we couldn't run the ball play action was off the table because no one would fall for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Well considering we couldn't run the ball play action was off the table because no one would fall for it. I hear you...but I bet the stats for the previous year were just as bad even when we had a running game. Its just not something Saint Gilbride liked to call...why try to fool the defense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balloonknot Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Ahh St. Gilbride and his Chuck and Pray offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Do you have to be injured to get the Comeback Player of the Year Award...cause I would bet #10 is going to the best we have seen yet this coming year. C. Wgaon oh, so Bleedin disappears, and suddenly you find the Giants board? Hmmmmm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 oh, so Bleedin disappears, and suddenly you find the Giants board? Hmmmmm.... Dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 • At his worst when throwing the out route (-7.3) that's troubling. he used to own the out pattern. tired arm or not enough protection to finish the route? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishgutmartyr Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 I hear you...but I bet the stats for the previous year were just as bad even when we had a running game. Its just not something Saint Gilbride liked to call...why try to fool the defense... I'm not trying to start a war here, but we haven't had a running game since at least 2010. Even when we won the SB, our running game was at the bottom of the pile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 • At his worst when throwing the out route (-7.3) that's troubling. he used to own the out pattern. tired arm or not enough protection to finish the route? Nicks was our WR to run the out, he was hurt and Gilly kept making him run the fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 This rating is based on "out route" attempts and outcomes. So Nicks running too many fly patterns wouldn't matter. I think the league caught up to that shorter, back shoulder pass he used to throw. DB's are expecting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 I'm not trying to start a war here, but we haven't had a running game since at least 2010. Even when we won the SB, our running game was at the bottom of the pile. I hear...even with all of that ...Gilbride always utilized the play action significantly less than other offensive coordinators... but he sure loved those screen plays... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMFP Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 I'm not trying to start a war here, but we haven't had a running game since at least 2010. Even when we won the SB, our running game was at the bottom of the pile. Can't disagree. The 2011 strategy....."Let's hope Eli is awesome, and can pull out a comeback in the 4th quarter." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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