Storm Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 we also had the most talent we've ever had on offense this era my guess is that most teams are breaking their offensive franchise records these past few years. the nfl team offense, passing td and passing yardage records were each broken twice in the past 7 years Yeah, the fact that they broke all the old records is a reflection of the evolution of the NFL as well as having the best quarterback the franchise has seen and some of the best wide receivers and running backs, as well. It's not a testament to Kevin Gilbride. I've said it for years, those offenses excelled despite Kevin Gilbride, who's offenses have routinely turned the ball over, were mediocre at best in the red zone, and continuously struggled to convert third downs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 we also had the most talent we've ever had on offense this era right, so if we were always middle of the pack in scoring or lower end I'd call him a bad OC. you can give me a bunch of high end expensive ingredients, doesn't mean im gonna cook you up a 5 star dinner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 i wouldn't call our offense a 5 star meal nor would i say the offense has played to its potential despite finishing in the top 3rd of the league over a 5 year span Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 right, so if we were always middle of the pack in scoring or lower end I'd call him a bad OC. you can give me a bunch of high end expensive ingredients, doesn't mean im gonna cook you up a 5 star dinner. Oh Pdoub you know logic doesnt belong on these forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Oh Pdoub you know logic doesnt belong on these forums. Just one fan's opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 here's some logic, canada: 2007-2012: the quarterback started putting it together in his 4th season and we get the most talent we've ever had. offense improves 2013: the offensive line ages/declines/gets injured/sucks, bradshaw declines and gets cut, wilson gets hurt, brown gets hurt, and eli has his worst season as a pro. offense is second worst in football. the one constant was the offensive coordinator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 update: i still haven't been mauled by any tigers. this tiger rock is totally working Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Oh this section is almost getting as fun as the P&R section, might as well invite Harooni and get Jack back over here. I'm sorry Herc, you can keep replying to yourself all you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 i love that story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman_NYG Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Well, this certainly turned out to be a Happy New Year for me!! GTFO GILFUCK! Now if only we can hire an OC with brains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Yes everyone is putting up more points. and still compared to that everyone: Tom Rock @TomRock_Newsday 15m Giants' NFL ranking in scoring under Kevin Gilbride in the last 6 seasons: 3rd, 8th, 7th, 9th, 6th, 28th. Ah, gotcha. Remember him as fondly as you want. I'm just happy he's gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Oh Pdoub you know logic doesnt belong on these forums. Now defend hiring Gilbride Jr. as WR coach for the last two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 We are not going to change the whole offensive philosophy, So, the candidates I see are Chudzinski, Sullivan, Turner, Koetter and Musgrave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeMesiS Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I'd love to get Norv. As long as he doesn't think he's heir to the throne. Would love to have Norv Turner here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I hope he thanks Coughlin for the rings, and not the other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue25 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Would love to have Norv Turner here... Out of my candidates I would want Musgrave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I'd love to get Norv. As long as he doesn't think he's heir to the throne. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Chudzinski would be my top choice, I think he got a sour deal getting fired by Cleveland and think he will be a good head coach some day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Chudzinski would be my top choice, I think he got a sour deal getting fired by Cleveland and think he will be a good head coach some day. I think I'd rather have Norv Turner... strange situation up there in Cleveland, firing the head coach, keeping the assistants, but the assistants (or at least, Norv) desperately want out. Getting canned may have been the best thing to happen to Chudzinski. The Browns front office implied there was stuff going on behind the scenes... shades of Fassel.... poor character, poor leadership, I don't know what.... so I'm not really sure if Chudzinski was the problem, or if it is their convenience store quality ownership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I think I'd rather have Norv Turner... strange situation up there in Cleveland, firing the head coach, keeping the assistants, but the assistants (or at least, Norv) desperately want out. Getting canned may have been the best thing to happen to Chudzinski. The Browns front office implied there was stuff going on behind the scenes... shades of Fassel.... poor character, poor leadership, I don't know what.... so I'm not really sure if Chudzinski was the problem, or if it is their convenience store quality ownership. What was the rumor supposed to be with Fassel? He was a womanizer or something, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 i've always wanted norv. i'll take him in a second Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I just never really liked Norv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 yeah the rumors are that fassel's a womanizer and a heavy drinker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMFP Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 The Giants need to go into the decision on who to replace Gilbride with as much focus as they would place on finding a new head coach. The Giants value stability, and look to promote from within.....which means that when Coughlin steps down eventually, whomever is running the offense might get a serious look at running this team. I have nothing against Sullivan, but I think the OC position for the NY Giants has to be one of the top openings in the NFL, and should be drawing the interest of the best minds in the NFL. The Giants don't need to settle, nor should they. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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