Sephiroth Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Trade for Kirk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jranieli Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 and of course I am getting killed in my money league because of fucking Eli. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted December 15, 2013 Author Share Posted December 15, 2013 Four picks so far. Clearly, we should continue starting him instead of our "trade bait," Ryan Nassib. The best way to showcase Nassib's talents are to deactivate him. I'm sure we'll get a second for the guy based on how he looks in a Giants jacket and hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 he's terrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMFP Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 This team sucks from top to bottom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 He's elite at throwing INTs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jranieli Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 I don't think he has regressed, just no confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted December 15, 2013 Author Share Posted December 15, 2013 I don't think he has regressed, just no confidence. He's regressed every year since Mike Sullivan left. It may be time for plan B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 he missed every throw today, he sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*SDMF* Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 If you think that Manning is gonna get benched you've got another thing coming. If that even crosses anyones mind in ownership or the locker room then we truly hve a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted December 15, 2013 Author Share Posted December 15, 2013 If you think that Manning is gonna get benched you've got another thing coming. If that even crosses anyones mind in ownership or the locker room then we truly hve a problem.I don't think he'll be benched. But letting Nassib play makes a ton of sense. 1. If he's good, maybe we really can use him as "trade bait" in a year or two. 2. If he's really good, may be we can groom him to be a starter some day. 3. Best case scenario if Eli "turns it around," is that we win two more games and lose our draft position. 4. If the coaching starf really believes Eli is the future, why should we let him continue to get killed behind this line? Letting Eli play a half and Nassib play a half is the sensible thing to do. Which is why it will never happen with this clownish coaching staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*SDMF* Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Fair, but the man needs to be on the field. If you want to put Nassib in when the game is way out of reach I have no problem with that. But otherwise no changes should be made. Its obvious Nicks needs to go. Bad pass or not you have to TRY. Which he has not done at all this year. Cruz cant be the only productive receiver on the field. The o-line is a much bigger problem than Manning. I have a much bigger problem with the defensive coordinator having the safetys and CBs playing 10 to 15 yards of the LOS then Eli having a horrible year. Brady could've been under center today and we still would've lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 cruz hasn't had a productive season--especially lately. his bad play led to two inceptions the last two weeks and of course there's the dallas fumble. 1 td since week 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 two mid 20's wr's who were the best combo in football two years ago having down years, i wonder what the common denominator is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*SDMF* Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Nicks is a shell of what he was 2 years ago. The want to play ball in NY is what he is lacking. Cruz gets open when we have a threat with Nicks. Which feels like we haven't had in some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Nicks is a shell of what he was 2 years ago. The want to play ball in NY is what he is lacking. Cruz gets open when we have a threat with Nicks. Which feels like we haven't had in some time. However Cruz doesnt relief any pressure of of Nicks. Cruz needs Nicks to be a presence on the field. Nicks doesnt need Cruz, he just doesnt need Eli to play like Ryan Leaf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 nicks had the best cover corner in football on him today. it was cruz's job to step up, he got the big contract and never has to deal with the other team's best corner. instead he had a huge drop early on and then a lazy play that led to an interception. this after standing still and doing nothing on another interception last week. if cruz being a productive wr (which he hasn't been this season) is predicated on nicks playing well then we shouldn't have given him all that money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 However Cruz doesnt relief any pressure of of Nicks. Cruz needs Nicks to be a presence on the field. Nicks doesnt need Cruz, he just doesnt need Eli to play like Ryan Leaf. exactly. very simple stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Both of those guys lack any physicality and desire. Cruz spends his weeks promoting crap on Twitter all day and making media appearances. Nicks doesn't get a target until the second halves of games and when he does, it's a matter of chucking up a prayer to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 also nicks was great last week (crickets) and cruz sucked. why is he getting a pass all season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Both of those guys lack any physicality and desire. Cruz spends his weeks promoting crap on Twitter all day and making media appearances. Nicks doesn't get a target until the second halves of games and when he does, it's a matter of chucking up a prayer to him. exactly. he's been ignored all season but now when richard sherman is on him we're forcing everything to him. makes a lot of sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted December 15, 2013 Author Share Posted December 15, 2013 Fair, but the man needs to be on the field. If you want to put Nassib in when the game is way out of reach I have no problem with that. But otherwise no changes should be made. Its obvious Nicks needs to go. Bad pass or not you have to TRY. Which he has not done at all this year. Cruz cant be the only productive receiver on the field. The o-line is a much bigger problem than Manning. I have a much bigger problem with the defensive coordinator having the safetys and CBs playing 10 to 15 yards of the LOS then Eli having a horrible year. Brady could've been under center today and we still would've lost. These are all really good points. By no means am I saying it's all on Eli. It's just that when your QB is having his worst season as a pro... just threw five picks... you have no shot at the postseason... you have a guy that you drafted in the fourth round... I mean dear God, man... If now isn't the time to see what the kid has got, WHEN is the time? How much worse do things have to get before you see if you blew a pick on a young QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 I'll give Eli a pass on the Fail Mary, but he was only under pressure on one of the other four picks. His ball placement is terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Four picks so far. Clearly, we should continue starting him instead of our "trade bait," Ryan Nassib. The best way to showcase Nassib's talents are to deactivate him. I'm sure we'll get a second for the guy based on how he looks in a Giants jacket and hat. TC thinks he's smarter than everyone.,, fire the old fuck already... He's nothing more than the geezer version of Fassel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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