HOUND Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 This isn't necessarily who I'm rooting for, this is how I think we'll select. Round 1 - DT Gabe Watson - Michigan. The upside is too tempting to let him slip by. He addresses a major area of need. Sure there's safer picks available here but Watson can pay immediate dividends and covers our biggest weakness. Round 2 - OT Daryn Colledge - Boise State. 4 year starter on the Left side for a quality Boise State team. First team WAC performer the past 2 seasons. Excellent footwork you want in a blindside Tackle prospect. Uses his hands exceedingly well. Needs some refinement in drive blocking but has shown capable skill. The concern that he may have been shining bright due to playing inferior competition was dispelled by a strong showing at the Senior Bowl. Needs to continue adding weight to handle large bull rushers. He may not fall to the 56th spot. I wouldn't be surprised to see EA trade up to land him. Round 3 - RB Maurice Drew - UCLA. Bit of a surprise pick here. I've heard rumors that Accorsi has taken a shine to this kid. He'd be a quality addition as he's the anti-Jacobs. We'd be in a good position to succeed Tiki in a couple of years. Drew is also an excellent return specialist who might make Chad Morton expendable next year. He's similar to Joe Morris as he's got a small compact frame and huge legs. Low center of gravity with excellent cutback skills. He's blindingly fast. He's well versed as a receiver out of the backfield. I didn't plan on taking 2 offensive players first day but the value was there. Round 4 - OLB Omar Gaither - Tennessee. 2 year starter on the outside for the Vols. Solid read and react skills. Projects well to weakside "chase" position. Had a huge performance his Junior year in the SEC title game versus Auburn (18 tackles!). Sure tackler. Underrated player. Round 5 - CB Tim Jennings - Georgia. Lightning fast corner who's started since late in his freshman year. Excellent footwork combined with good hip swivel. Incredibly developed zone coverage skills usually not seen in college prospects. His 4.3 speed allows him to run with any receiver on the field. He lacks ideal size - is only 5'8", 186 lbs. The small frame creates problems in jump ball situations. He also struggles to match up physically bumping receivers off the line. He isn't afraid to come up and support the run but lacks the bulk to do it well. He typically tries to cut the runners legs to bring him down. May lack the physical package to ever earn a starting role but could be an impact nickel corner surprisignly early. Round 7 - TE T.J. Williams - N.C. State. Talented senior who saw his draft stock fall due to a lack of quality stats his final 2 seasons. Williams has soft hands and is a well defined route runner. He's a bit small for the position (6'2") but has good leaping ability. TJ's Junior and Senior seasons saw a big dropoff in numbers primarily due to deficiencies at the QB position for the Wolfpack. Williams draft stock was victimized by the departure of Philip Rivers and the Pack's attempt at breaking in young signalcallers. With better play at the QB position, Williams possibly becomes a first day pick. He tends to block using positional leverage moreso than strength. He'll need some further coaching in that area. With Shiancoe's contract expiring at the conclusion of this season, Williams could fill his role after gaining a season of experience. Guys I would've loved to include: [/i] FS Pat Watkins - Florida State. Behemoth prospect with speed and quickness rarely found in such a large frame (6'4", 210 lbs, runs a 4.45 forty!). Likely late second round pick. CB/S Marcus Hudson - NC State. Versatile player with well honed coverage skills. Reliable tackler who contributes in run support. Projected 5th rounder. I already had a Wolfpack player and didn't want to be accused of homerism. WR Brandon Marshall - Central Florida. Huge athletic wideout (6'4", 225 lbs.) Solid hands, mean streak, excellent athleticism. Needs to work on technique and route running to realize his potential but the raw talent is amazing. Possible first day pick but is a gem in the 4th round. QB Brett Basanez - Northwestern. Impressed me every time I saw him play. Quick release, good smarts, solid decision making. He's going to make some GM look real smart as he likely doesn't get picked until the 2nd day. However we don't have a need at QB, especially for a young gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Grimes Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 I'd be happy if it went like this. I really like Colledge in the 2nd round, would be an excellent pick if available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barens Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 It would be an amazing draft Hound, though we'd need a bit of luck to land picks 2 through 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 Hound thank you for this interesting take on the draft. i speak for all of us when i say we appreciate your effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUND Posted April 27, 2006 Author Share Posted April 27, 2006 It would be an amazing draft Hound, though we'd need a bit of luck to land picks 2 through 7. Really? I think the only pick I included that has less than a 50-50 chance of being available is Colledge. Drew is all over the place. Some mocks have him going 4th round others I've seen him selected in the second. I think he's still there when we pick at 3. I think Gaither, Jennings and Williams are all available when we pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUND Posted April 27, 2006 Author Share Posted April 27, 2006 Hound thank you for this interesting take on the draft. i speak for all of us when i say we appreciate your effort. Thanks for the props Martin but really, this is hardly what I would call "work". I tend to read up on the draft every year. It's a bit of an addiction. Debating picks and assessing talent is part of the process. Sometime next week I'll write up the scouting reports I've seen on who we actually pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barens Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 Really? I think the only pick I included that has less than a 50-50 chance of being available is Colledge. Drew is all over the place. Some mocks have him going 4th round others I've seen him selected in the second. I think he's still there when we pick at 3. I think Gaither, Jennings and Williams are all available when we pick. I'm not saying it's not possible, their all good prospects, I just think it would take a bit of luck to land Colledge, Drew, Jennings and Hudson in those respective rounds. Jennings, despite the height, is an underrated prospect, and I think he could easily go in the 3rd or 4th round. Like I said though, I really like your draft, and although I'm not sold on Watson, I hope the rest goes as you planned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 I don't know if Drew makes it to 87. The Browns evidently love him, and they have a few chances to nab him before we pick in Round 3... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUND Posted April 27, 2006 Author Share Posted April 27, 2006 I don't know if Drew makes it to 87. The Browns evidently love him, and they have a few chances to nab him before we pick in Round 3... Time for Paulie Walnuts to pay Phil Savage a visit then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeMesiS Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 This isn't necessarily who I'm rooting for, this is how I think we'll select. Round 1 - DT Gabe Watson - Michigan. Round 2 - OT Daryn Colledge - Boise State. But I think he is going to be available to us. Round 3 - RB Maurice Drew - UCLA. Terrible pick. We have 3 good RB he probably would get cut. Isn't he 5'6? Round 4 - OLB Omar Gaither - Tennessee. Extremly slow LB. If I'm not mistaken, he ran a 4.85. Round 5 - CB Tim Jennings - Georgia. At 5'7" I think we can find someone taller Round 7 - TE T.J. Williams - N.C. State. no need to pick a TE, even this late. Guys I would've loved to include: FS Pat Watkins - Florida State. great pick CB/S Marcus Hudson - NC State. I don't know why, but I like this pick. WR Brandon Marshall - Central Florida. No more WR IMHO QB Brett Basanez - Northwestern. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUND Posted April 27, 2006 Author Share Posted April 27, 2006 Maurice Drew is far more talented than Derrick Ward and is a better return specialist than anyone currently on the roster. It wouldn't surprise me if Drew turned out to be a better pro than Jacobs. Yes he's small but RB's don't need to come in big packages to be successful. Gaither plays faster than he times. Prior to the combine his 40 time was listed as 4.7. Not sure what he ran in Indy but I think it was a fraction slower. When you get to the 5th round it's tough to find complete players. Just about everyone has some sort of wart. In Jennings case it's height but he can still contribute and wouldn't be a bad pick at that slot. If we don't re-sign Shiancoe, which at this point I don't really see why it would be urgent to do so, he'll be a free agent at the end of the season. By taking a tight end late we're already grooming his replacement. Williams in the 7th is excellent value for the reasons I listed. I think I summed up my reasons for not including Basanez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 I think it's premature so say that Drew is a better return specialist than Morton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 pretty good mock but in the 3rd round i would trake the best CB available... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeMesiS Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 Maurice Drew is far more talented than Derrick Ward and is a better return specialist than anyone currently on the roster. It wouldn't surprise me if Drew turned out to be a better pro than Jacobs. Yes he's small but RB's don't need to come in big packages to be successful. Gaither plays faster than he times. Prior to the combine his 40 time was listed as 4.7. Not sure what he ran in Indy but I think it was a fraction slower. ...You actually believe Drew (at 5'6'') will be better than Ward and Jacobs. I'm sorry, I don't see it. And we have already have slow LB. Why add another one? When you get to the 5th round it's tough to find complete players. Just about everyone has some sort of wart. In Jennings case it's height but he can still contribute and wouldn't be a bad pick at that slot. there are other CB just a fast and taller If we don't re-sign Shiancoe, which at this point I don't really see why it would be urgent to do so, he'll be a free agent at the end of the season. By taking a tight end late we're already grooming his replacement. Williams in the 7th is excellent value for the reasons I listed. I think I summed up my reasons for not including Basanez. I thought Shiancoe was already signed. Sorry about that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxi-xxv Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 Maurice Drew is not a better return man as per NFL standards at the present time than Chad Morton is. Not to say Maurice will not be a good return man, its just that he is not better than Morton now. As for Drew I watched his combine workout on NFL network and his quickness and strength(thighs are friging huge) is impressive for his size. Not sure he makes it to us in that spot, but his talent is intriguing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uconngiants Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 just to add here in High School Drew beat Bush in their track meet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUND Posted April 28, 2006 Author Share Posted April 28, 2006 I think it's premature so say that Drew is a better return specialist than Morton. Premature? Maybe ... but I know who I'd put my money on 2 years from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUND Posted April 28, 2006 Author Share Posted April 28, 2006 ...You actually believe Drew (at 5'6'') will be better than Ward and Jacobs. I'm sorry, I don't see it. And we have already have slow LB. Why add another one? there are other CB just a fast and taller I thought Shiancoe was already signed. Sorry about that... Drew better than Ward? Yes, I'm very confident he'll be the better pro. Drew better than Jacobs? That's not the point I was trying to make. What I was saying was that by selecting Drew we can use Jacobs and Drew in a tandem role as they're strengths are polar opposites of each other. I'm not suggesting that we draft Drew so we can cut Jacobs. I like the thought of utilizing both as they complement each other. Although if you were to make me choose one or the other I'd still take Drew but regardless, that's not what I was getting at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUND Posted April 28, 2006 Author Share Posted April 28, 2006 Maurice Drew is not a better return man as per NFL standards at the present time than Chad Morton is. Not to say Maurice will not be a good return man, its just that he is not better than Morton now. As for Drew I watched his combine workout on NFL network and his quickness and strength(thighs are friging huge) is impressive for his size. Not sure he makes it to us in that spot, but his talent is intriguing. Considering Drew hasn't stepped on the field yet in the NFL I think it's kind of implied that that isn't what I was stating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosebleedjints Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 I don't like this draft. Watson might not be bad, though I don't like players who have questionable motivation. We do not want a Gerald Warren or Courtney Brown. I think CB is a bigger prority and we should not wait until the 4th round. I like the idea of a running back in the event of Tiki having a problem, particulalry if White slips to us in the first round. However, I do not think choosing a running back who likely is a backup to replace Morton should be done before addressing our CB need for a starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeMesiS Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 Drew better than Ward? Yes, I'm very confident he'll be the better pro. Drew better than Jacobs? That's not the point I was trying to make. What I was saying was that by selecting Drew we can use Jacobs and Drew in a tandem role as they're strengths are polar opposites of each other. I'm not suggesting that we draft Drew so we can cut Jacobs. I like the thought of utilizing both as they complement each other. Although if you were to make me choose one or the other I'd still take Drew but regardless, that's not what I was getting at. Ward is a good kick returner. But why stop there...Why don't we also draft Cory Ross from Nebraska? I hear he's 5'5". <_> Sorry Hound, I don't see him even making the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 Drew is very good prospect, and no one -- especially Giants fans who rooted for Joe Morris -- should hold his height against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockjock Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 (edited) Drew is short.....but short and small are two different things. Joe Morris, Dave Megget, Warrick Dunn......you don't have to be tall to be an effective running back. Now to the "not small" part. Sure he is 5 foot 6...but he is also weighing in at 207 pounds....On a six foot tall back that isn't much size...but 207 pounds on a 5 foot 6 body is a thick, strong, running back.....would be a nice pick in the third round... Essentially...he is a fast moving bowling ball....with better hands.... Edited April 28, 2006 by shockjock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gateb Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 ...You actually believe Drew (at 5'6'') will be better than Ward and Jacobs. I'm sorry, I don't see it. And we have already have slow LB. Why add another one? there are other CB just a fast and taller I thought Shiancoe was already signed. Sorry about that... Darren Sproles appears to be a damn good KR at 5'6 or whatever he is.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeMesiS Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 Darren Sproles appears to be a damn good KR at 5'6 or whatever he is.. We have four...count them, four good kick returners. (Morton, Ponder, McQuarter, Ward) Do we really need to use our 3rd round draft pick on another one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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