Allstarjim Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 I don't know why Ross is returning punts.. yes he had a bad game against the Rams but sadly.. he's the best we got at that spot. Let this Jerrigan dude return punts.. that's why he was drafted... even if he looks like Sinorice Moss.. at least give the guy a few shots. No you can't let Jernigan return punts because he drops the ball too often. He had his chances in preseason and repeatedly muffed the catch. We will lose because of him if he's the returner. The logical choice is Devin Thomas because he already returns kicks, has done a good job, and doesn't play a critical role on offense. After that you could try Da'Rel Scott. Then and only then you might take a look at Jernigan again, but that's pretty much a worst case scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 No you can't let Jernigan return punts because he drops the ball too often. He had his chances in preseason and repeatedly muffed the catch. We will lose because of him if he's the returner. The logical choice is Devin Thomas because he already returns kicks, has done a good job, and doesn't play a critical role on offense. After that you could try Da'Rel Scott. Then and only then you might take a look at Jernigan again, but that's pretty much a worst case scenario. Agreed. Imma go back to my room now and not post for the rest of the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allstarjim Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Oh and Ross did not have as bad of a game as everyone is saying. Whoever is opposite of Webster is going to get thrown at a lot more. No matter what the coverage, some catches are going to be made. Ross was in position on some plays and got beat by a 6'5" receiver. He also made several good plays and forced incompletions. Getting tired of reading all the Ross hate. He's a good player, and we could do a lot worse. Losing T2 hurt us. We are going to suffer a little drop-off. But we could also do a lot worse. Some people think that a cornerback isn't good unless they are shut down like Revis or Asomugha. It's just not realistic. Ross is going to make some big plays for us this year, unless he gets hurt returning punts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osi724dasack Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Ross is way to valuable to return punts for us as sad as that may sound. I'd give the rock to Scott Or Thomas Or Jj Or even Jacobs! Yes Jacobs! He would be sure handed and gunners would think twice about hitting him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 They have to try Scott at PR. He's the most explosive player we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allstarjim Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 They should've tried him out doing that in the preseason, Tree. I don't know why they didn't get him some reps there. I think they were just focused on getting Jernigan to do the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osi724dasack Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Fuck it, Scott should be on the field period. Weather it's returns, as a RB, or a slot guy, get that SPEED and SIZE on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Oh and Ross did not have as bad of a game as everyone is saying. Whoever is opposite of Webster is going to get thrown at a lot more. No matter what the coverage, some catches are going to be made. Ross was in position on some plays and got beat by a 6'5" receiver. He also made several good plays and forced incompletions. Getting tired of reading all the Ross hate. He's a good player, and we could do a lot worse. Losing T2 hurt us. We are going to suffer a little drop-off. But we could also do a lot worse. Some people think that a cornerback isn't good unless they are shut down like Revis or Asomugha. It's just not realistic. Ross is going to make some big plays for us this year, unless he gets hurt returning punts. You're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osi724dasack Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 You're right. Ok now you admit it, couple days ago you were on the bench Ross for Coe train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Ok now you admit it, couple days ago you were on the bench Ross for Coe train. Humans are allowed to change their minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allstarjim Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 You're right. It wasn't just you. I just didn't get it that Ross was so terrible. A lot of it was carry over from the first game, I think. If there's one thing I would like people here to look at is where the DB's are situated on the field pre-snap and are they playing man or zone, press coverage or giving cushion. This will tell you what you need to know about the players and the scheme. Fewell is to blame a lot more often than a specific player for what happens on the field. It's just easier to point out the guy that had that coverage responsibility and blame him, though. We all just need to take a deep breath and recognize that playing cornerback in the NFL is tough for anyone, and even the best get burned from time to time. Shit, Revis has been burned for TD's. It doesn't mean he's not a great corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 They should've tried him out doing that in the preseason, Tree. I don't know why they didn't get him some reps there. I think they were just focused on getting Jernigan to do the job. Exactly. They were convinced they had the returner spot locked down with Jernigan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allstarjim Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Exactly. They were convinced they had the returner spot locked down with Jernigan. Whoops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Whoops. Yeah, no shit. I can't believe he incapable of doing the job after his collegiate record. It's not like catching a ball in the NFL is any different. The fact they've pulled him out entirely is a very bad sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masterjeffz Posted September 22, 2011 Author Share Posted September 22, 2011 Ross spends more time on his backside than my ex girlfriend did. He can't cover well and looks almost lost at times. He's never proven his worth as I first round pick !!!!! First round pick players are players that need to at least contribute. I hope the prince comes back and is at least average because without any corner play. The D LINE needs at least 30 sacks or massive pressure to compensate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Ross spends more time on his backside than my ex girlfriend did. He can't cover well and looks almost lost at times. He's never proven his worth as I first round pick !!!!! First round pick players are players that need to at least contribute. I hope the prince comes back and is at least average because without any corner play. The D LINE needs at least 30 sacks or massive pressure to compensate. Speaking of Prince.. when is he scheduled to come back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osi724dasack Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Speaking of Prince.. when is he scheduled to come back? Week 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Week 5 Cool.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman329 Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 It wasn't just you. I just didn't get it that Ross was so terrible. A lot of it was carry over from the first game, I think. If there's one thing I would like people here to look at is where the DB's are situated on the field pre-snap and are they playing man or zone, press coverage or giving cushion. This will tell you what you need to know about the players and the scheme. Fewell is to blame a lot more often than a specific player for what happens on the field. It's just easier to point out the guy that had that coverage responsibility and blame him, though. We all just need to take a deep breath and recognize that playing cornerback in the NFL is tough for anyone, and even the best get burned from time to time. Shit, Revis has been burned for TD's. It doesn't mean he's not a great corner. Point taken....but methinks they're playing that zone/cushion scheme because, in Fewell's judgement, they would get toasted even worse if they tried to match up and play a tight man. And that vulnerability becomes even more pronounced when they have to defend 3 and 4 receiver packages. Last year, Ross was the nickel and other guys that got hurt played in the dime packages. When a safety has to play the nickel, you know we're feeling the lack of depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Unrelated but I don't feel like creating another thread.. Mods would you please reduce the # of pinned threads... they're taking up way too much space... not to mention the 1.5" of the header. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BronxRik Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Humans are allowed to change their minds. Yes we are. So what's your excuse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Let's see what he does this weekend and then discuss further, because frankly the rams are poor at wideout, and regardless of what's been said here, he struggled at times against mediocre wr's. On sunday, they won't be mediocre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Yes we are. So what's your excuse? Good morning, Rik :big F-U: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masterjeffz Posted September 25, 2011 Author Share Posted September 25, 2011 Once again Ross sucks , and is wasted first round pick. First round pucks either earn it or don't. Reminds me of another first round pick by a ny team Vernon golston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osi724dasack Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Once again Ross sucks , and is wasted first round pick. First round pucks either earn it or don't. Reminds me of another first round pick by a ny team Vernon golston. Not at all. Vernon did jack shit, nada, zilch. Ross atleast was our starting CB In the superbowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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