Mr. P Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 In an interview on WFAN Tuesday afternoon, Giants safety Antrel Rolle vented about plenty of things, including the game plan against the Colts, his teammates’ energy, his own energy and even the logistics of the team’s schedule for a road trip. All of the above were criticisms he either couched or ones that were outright questionable. But there was one topic on which Rolle was very clear and very critical without hedging his bets. It was about the lack of leadership in the Giants’ locker room. It came in response a question about whether the team will be lackadaisical this Sunday against the Titans. “That definitely shouldn’t be the case,” Rolle said before looking back at the loss to Indy by saying, “I saw some things I wasn’t too fond of in that locker room. I felt like there was no one that stepped up to the plate when the opportunity presented itself.” All summer long, we talked about Justin Tuck being the leader the team has been lacking since the loss of Antonio Pierce midway through last season. Tuck said the coaching staff and a few of his current and former teammates (Michael Strahan being one) have spoken with him about becoming more of a vocal leader. Rolle didn’t mention Tuck by name, nor did he point out any other teammate. But he clearly identified some players in his own mind as leaders who didn’t speak up. “I don’t take anything away from any player. I love my teammates, my teammates are great, they’re warriors,” Rolle said. “But I felt like, in a situation like that, something should have been done to a higher extent. I don’t feel like there was enough done at all taking place in that game, especially a game of that magnitude.” Rolle, who in March signed a five-year, $37-million deal as a free agent, also pointed toward the coaching staff as not providing any direction. “I definitely see things. I see little things here and there, and it’s not all with the players,” he said. “There are a lot of other things that go on behind closed doors that a lot of people don’t know about. It’s not all about the players sometimes. Things have to change. “If you want a winning team that has a competitive attitude and to have that dog mentality, sometimes you have to let that team be a dog. Everything can’t be controlled and right now everything is controlled within this organization, everything is controlled.” * * * * Unfortunately, the above is where the interview ended. There were no follow-up questions about what specifically needs to change, what’s going on behind closed doors, why the “dog” isn’t being unleashed or what’s being controlled that shouldn’t be controlled. Those questions will certainly be asked of Rolle later this week. However, earlier in the interview, Rolle indicated he wasn’t too fond of the way the Giants handle the schedule for a road night game. He believes the team arrived too early in Indianapolis (about 3 p.m., he said) for a game the following night and that there was too much sitting around at the hotel and the stadium. “I just felt like we had too much down time doing nothing and just relaxing,” Rolle said. “I really felt like that carried over to the game.” To which I present this point: under Tom Coughlin, the Giants are 7-7 in road night games. Not a bad record at all. And frankly, the NFC Championship game in Green Bay, which kicked off at 6:30 p.m., was pretty much a night game as well. So make that 8-7. And the Super Bowl was also played at night, though the team was there for a week, so I’m not sure that counts. But if you want to include it, go ahead and make that record 9-7. After all, it shows the coach’s ability to handle the logistics of a difficult road schedule. And heck, if that’s the case, why not toss in the London game against the Dolphins, which was also played in the early evening? So make it 10-7, then. In short, a lot of the “controlled” stuff that Coughlin does that drives the players nuts is also what makes them a competitive team. So I don’t put too much stock into their arriving four hours earlier than Rolle would like. Not at all. And getting to the stadium early should be a good thing; I know I get cabin fever when I sit in a hotel room the day of a night game … and I’m not even playing. 2:12 p.m. UPDATE I originally counted victories over the Falcons in 2006 and 2007 both as night games. Just realized the one in '06 was a 1 p.m. game. The records above have been adjusted to reflect that change. Sorry about that. Still impressive numbers for Coughlin's teams. * * * * As for Rolle’s other concerns about the team, he noted his issues with the game plan. But at the same time, he said the coaches still put the players in position to make plays. It sounded like standard frustration about a plan and the execution of said plan that didn’t work. And Rolle certainly isn’t the first one to criticize the plan. As I noted a little while ago, the decisions to dress only two DTs and play the safeties up high the entire first half were both questionable. http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2010/09/antrel_rolle_questions_giants.html I agree with Mike about the arrival at away game things. We have a good record on the road under Coughlin. And if there is a problem with leadership in the lockerroom then step the fuck up Antrel and lead, you are a vet with a big contract, lead somebody instead of going to the radio about it after the fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelmo Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2010/09/antrel_rolle_questions_giants.html I agree with Mike about the arrival at away game things. We have a good record on the road under Coughlin. And if there is a problem with leadership in the lockerroom then step the fuck up Antrel and lead, you are a vet with a big contract, lead somebody instead of going to the radio about it after the fact. Agreed. He may be right but there's no need to be airing this laundry out for everyone to hear. -Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echochamber Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 I listened to this on WFAN. meh, it's overblown. he simply sounded annoyed that they didn't show up. i suppose he could have been more diplomatic, but whatev. Strahan did the same thing. seriously, if this has an adverse affect on the team, then they aren't very good to begin with. Be a pro, show up, and compete. The Giants did none of that sunday night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Exactly, step the fuck up yourself, Moneybags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Exactly, step the fuck up yourself, Moneybags. I disagree. He's the new kid on the block.. and him saying something now is a very good sign that if someone doesn't step up, then he will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 I disagree. He's the new kid on the block.. and him saying something now is a very good sign that if someone doesn't step up, then he will. Then he shouldn't be bitching about others not doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 This team thrives in turmoil. I say "good." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMFP Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 I've seen chess teams come out with more fire than the Giants. Offensively and Defensively, the Giants lacked intensity, and were more concerned with what the Colts were going to do than what the Giants were capable of doing. And that's why they got their asses handed to them. We're 1-1......the Cowboys and Vikings are 0-2. I really, really, really hope to see Hedgecock and Jacobs on the field in the 1st quarter next week. I really, really, really, want to see all our big boys banging on the defensive line next week. The Giants need to take some shit out on the Titans, and then everything is all right with the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Then he shouldn't be bitching about others not doing it. Why does it have to be "bitching".. the guy saw something and said something. Given he's new to the team, it would be inconceivable for him to step up.. and what he's basically saying is.. if someone doesn't fuck this monkey, he will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Why does it have to be "bitching".. the guy saw something and said something. Given he's new to the team, it would be inconceivable for him to step up.. and what he's basically saying is.. if someone doesn't fuck this monkey, he will. Then he should play for the Eagles. They've already got someone who kills dogs, so a monkey fucker will fit right in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 I've seen chess teams come out with more fire than the Giants. Offensively and Defensively, the Giants lacked intensity, and were more concerned with what the Colts were going to do than what the Giants were capable of doing. And that's why they got their asses handed to them. We're 1-1......the Cowboys and Vikings are 0-2. I really, really, really hope to see Hedgecock and Jacobs on the field in the 1st quarter next week. I really, really, really, want to see all our big boys banging on the defensive line next week. The Giants need to take some shit out on the Titans, and then everything is all right with the world. Remember under Spags we started 0-2 (right?) I don't expect our team (defensively) to stomp on anyone right away... so hopefully Fewell gets his act together and learn from this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Then he should play for the Eagles. They've already got someone who kills dogs, so a monkey fucker will fit right in. This was one of the sayings I used to hear during basic training: "I fuck this monkey, you hold the tail" or "I fuck the chicken, you collect the feathers" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMFP Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Remember under Spags we started 0-2 (right?) I don't expect our team (defensively) to stomp on anyone right away... so hopefully Fewell gets his act together and learn from this one. Exactly. I'm going to see what we do against the Titans before I hit the panic button on this defense. Offensively, though, I'm worried. It's like someone from the Colts staff prepared our gameplan. I'm just hoping we gameplan according to what the Giants are all about, and we should be okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 he should talk after he ole'd a TD saving tackle on the RB in the first Quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandolphScott Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Exactly. I'm going to see what we do against the Titans before I hit the panic button on this defense. Offensively, though, I'm worried. It's like someone from the Colts staff prepared our gameplan. I'm just hoping we gameplan according to what the Giants are all about, and we should be okay. It was week 2 of the NFL Season...learning a new defensive system while playing a HOF QB, many whom consider to be the best of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandolphScott Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 he should talk after he ole'd a TD saving tackle on the RB in the first Quarter. That was Kenny Phillips..and Donald Brown was scoring anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Why does it have to be "bitching".. the guy saw something and said something. Given he's new to the team, it would be inconceivable for him to step up.. and what he's basically saying is.. if someone doesn't fuck this monkey, he will. Your first complaint about your new team shouldn't be on the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 That was Kenny Phillips..and Donald Brown was scoring anyways. is philips 26? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 A lot of guys "whiffed" on Sunday. Against the Panthers I saw Rolle make three tackles on the running back in the first quarter alone at the line of scrimage, he's not the main problem by a long shot. I'd be more concerned about the fact that Aaron Ross couldn't cover a small tight end running a deep pattern even if Michael Johnson completely blew the coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 A lot of guys "whiffed" on Sunday. Against the Panthers I saw Rolle make three tackles on the running back in the first quarter alone at the line of scrimage, he's not the main problem by a long shot. I'd be more concerned about the fact that Aaron Ross couldn't cover a small tight end running a deep pattern even if Michael Johnson completely blew the coverage. that was pretty embarrassing to watch...Johnson ran to cover, well, no one, and Clark blew by Aaron Ross...but then again, doesn't Ross's girlfriend run faster than him....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandolphScott Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 is philips 26? No. And it was Phillips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 No. And it was Phillips. we're talking about a different play perhaps. 26 it was. thanks for trying to help though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandolphScott Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 we're talking about a different play perhaps. 26 it was. thanks for trying to help though. Considering the Colts only scored on rushing touchdown all game..it was Phillips. Perhaps its the Clark TD..when he pretty much stopped running at the 17 yard line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 Considering the Colts only scored on rushing touchdown all game..it was Phillips. Perhaps its the Clark TD..when he pretty much stopped running at the 17 yard line. i don't know but even my wife said what's wrong with 26? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 Your first complaint about your new team shouldn't be on the air. Point taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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