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Sephiroth

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Has not been favorable.

 

In fact, I haven't read a single good thing about him... only seeing that on the first day of minicamp, he "didn't distinguish himself," and that on the second day he "stumbled," looked "winded," and tried to blame the whole thing on his back, saying it "happens every year... I'm not winded, my back needs to get ready for football."

 

I call bullshit, first of all. Secondly... I know it's just minicamp, but... he sounds outta shape.

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Remember last year when all we heard was how Barden was tearing up all the mini-camps and couldn't be stopped and how Nicks was struggling with a few injuries and wasnt proving up to his first round status? How did that one turn out?

 

Yeah I take what the press says in Mini-camp as serious as I take Fox News serious. It's mini-camp for a reason and means nothing on game day.

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Remember last year when all we heard was how Barden was tearing up all the mini-camps and couldn't be stopped and how Nicks was struggling with a few injuries and wasnt proving up to his first round status? How did that one turn out?

 

Yeah I take what the press says in Mini-camp as serious as I take Fox News serious. It's mini-camp for a reason and means nothing on game day.

 

Stop making sense please. Now where's my damn panic button? :ranting2:

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Stop making sense please. Now where's my damn panic button? :ranting2:

 

Well heres the thing, every year we have mini-camp and training camp heroes i.e. Barden, THE LEGENDARY SEAWRIGHT ect and so do other teams. However these guys get into the game in pre-season or regular season and show their just not ready to play yet(or at all). On the other side of things you have guys like Tom Brady, Terrel Davis, Hakeem Nicks, Bradshaw, ect who basically dont show much in mini camp or training camp but as soon as they get their chance in a real game they excel. I'm not saying that all these players are bound to be HoFers but it goes to show no matter how many drills they get put threw in mini-camp/traning camp that you never know how someone is going to play until their put into a real game.

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Much ado bout nuthin!

 

Hell...the newbies don't even know where the locker rooms are yet, let alone figuring out how to get to the playing field or where to park their car when they get there. Not to mention, worrying about contract negotiations, completely new surroundings with teammates they've never met, where they're going to live, family ties, etc.

 

Give it time. No draft picked player is a bust at mini-camp playing in shorts. This is a "getting to know you" time for players and coaches.

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Well heres the thing, every year we have mini-camp and training camp heroes i.e. Barden, THE LEGENDARY SEAWRIGHT ect and so do other teams. However these guys get into the game in pre-season or regular season and show their just not ready to play yet(or at all). On the other side of things you have guys like Tom Brady, Terrel Davis, Hakeem Nicks, Bradshaw, ect who basically dont show much in mini camp or training camp but as soon as they get their chance in a real game they excel. I'm not saying that all these players are bound to be HoFers but it goes to show no matter how many drills they get put threw in mini-camp/traning camp that you never know how someone is going to play until their put into a real game.

You're right, except Bradshaw was tearing it up in camp.

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I know, I know...

 

After all, Eli (who may end up being the best quarterback the francise has ever seen) dropped back in his first practice, and threw a picture perfect strike to... a tackling dummy that was 20 yards out of bounds.

 

I'm just sayin... I hope the kid gets his shit together.

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I know, I know...

 

After all, Eli (who may end up being the best quarterback the francise has ever seen) dropped back in his first practice, and threw a picture perfect strike to... a tackling dummy that was 20 yards out of bounds.

 

I'm just sayin... I hope the kid gets his shit together.

 

 

yeah ralph v also says that eli's mini camp was the worst he had ever scene from a player since he had been reporting on the giants mini camps.

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Give it time. No draft picked player is a bust at mini-camp playing in shorts. This is a "getting to know you" time for players and coaches.

 

Yeah but you can be drafted 15th overall by looking good in shorts :ph34r:

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Has not been favorable.

 

In fact, I haven't read a single good thing about him... only seeing that on the first day of minicamp, he "didn't distinguish himself," and that on the second day he "stumbled," looked "winded," and tried to blame the whole thing on his back, saying it "happens every year... I'm not winded, my back needs to get ready for football."

 

I call bullshit, first of all. Secondly... I know it's just minicamp, but... he sounds outta shape.

 

Sounds more like Ru Paul.

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Just a point, Sinorice Moss always tears up training camp.

 

Which leg?

 

EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- Roughly 10 minutes into the second day of a rookie and free agent minicamp with the New York Giants, defensive end Jason Pierre-Paul looked spent.

 

That's putting it politely, too.

 

Pierre-Paul had all the appearances of sucking wind. His hands were clasped above his head. His No. 90 blue jersey was drenched with sweat and it was fairly obvious the No. 15 pick overall in the recent NFL Draft was having a problem on a steamy Saturday morning.

 

A minute or two later, the first-round draft pick from South Florida was on all fours on the grass with trainers huddling over him on a steamy morning.

 

While it looked like dehydration, it wasn't. Spray from an aerosol can was soon applied to Pierre-Paul's back along with a what seemed to be a white 5x7 pad, and all the while, Pierre-Paul was telling his coaches that he wasn't out of shape.

 

Instead, it was his annual back problem. It happens every time he gets away from football and then starts playing again.

 

"My back just started hurting," Pierre-Paul said after eating lunch. "It is a conditioning thing. It did that at South Florida, too, where I got used to it. It always does the same thing around this time. I don't know for what reason."

 

Pierre-Paul described the problem as a pinch in his lower back, adding it hurt most when he got into a three-point stance on the line. As soon as he stood up, the pain went away.

 

The back did not spasm, he said, and it usually takes between four days and a week for his body to adjust to playing football again. Then the pain subsides.

 

Although Pierre-Paul associated the back problem with conditioning, he said he has nothing to do with his stamina.

 

"I'm not out of shape," he said. "I'm not out of shape. I feel like I'm in good shape right now. The fact that I was out there bending down and stuff, it wasn't that I was out of shape. I kept on telling coach that. I'm not out of shape now. I feel like I'm in great shape. It's just my back was just killing me."

 

Pierre-Paul said he trained in Miami and Tampa, Fla., before the draft and intends to go back to Tampa after the minicamp ends on Saturday. He insists he will be ready for next month's minicamp and the start of the regular training camp in late July.

 

"I know my body," Pierre-Paul said. "I see a lot of guys running and tiring. It wasn't that. It was my lower back that was hurting."

 

Pierre-Paul is going to have to work to get playing time under new defensive coordinator Perry Fewell. Defensive ends Justin Tuck, Osi Umenyiora, Mathias Kiwanuka and Dave Tollefson are all returning with tackles Barry Cofield, Chris Canty, Jay Alford and Rocky Bernard.

 

Fewell also disclosed Friday that he isn't a big fan of rotating his linemen so a fresh body is on the field.

 

"I like for our defensive linemen to play until they fall out," Fewell said. "So, if they are in there playing and if they give me 100 percent effort, and can still give me 100 percent effort on first, second, and third downs, I have no problem with that. If they need a blow, we'll get them out. I like our best players to be on the field at all times."

 

Fewell isn't worried that the policy might leave some players unhappy.

 

"If they want to start, hey, prove it," Fewell said. "We have a lot of football and a lot of practice, let's just prove it and that will take care of itself."

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Thanks Lone Wolf for the article...I am of mixed opinion concerning the rotation....it can keep guys fresh and even your best players get tired. And most injuries seem to happen when a guy is going all out and does not have something left in the tank. But then again if a guy is in a rhythm and tackling/sacking/disrupting everything in his vicinity...why would you take him out? :P

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But then again if a guy is in a rhythm and tackling/sacking/disrupting everything in his vicinity...why would you take him out? :P

 

It's called the "Gilbride principal."

 

For instance, when your running back rips off a 28-yard run, and then follows that up with a 13-yard run... with under two minutes left in a quarter... you throw three straight passes into the wind.

 

It's genius... tough for plebs like you and me to understand. :TU:

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It's called the "Gilbride principal."

 

For instance, when your running back rips off a 28-yard run, and then follows that up with a 13-yard run... with under two minutes left in a quarter... you throw three straight passes into the wind.

 

It's genius... tough for plebs like you and me to understand. :TU:

 

and if your running back riops off a 28 yard run, then a 13 yard run. most giants fans are gonna hate you because you didnt call a playaction pass the next play, and if you did most giants fans will hate you for not sticking with the run.

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and if your running back riops off a 28 yard run, then a 13 yard run. most giants fans are gonna hate you because you didnt call a playaction pass the next play, and if you did most giants fans will hate you for not sticking with the run.

 

This.

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