JMFP Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 I read Sheridan plans to stay up on the box, and this sends Tim Lewis shivers up my spine. I’m worried about losing that Spags-mojo that seemed to fire up this defense. On the flip side, I need to remind myself that some good defensive coordinators called the game upstairs. But the fact that all my favorite DCs (Fox, Belichick, Parcell, Spags) strolled the sidelines has my spidey senses a little worried. Please tell me I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giants50 Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 He doesn't want to get distracted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 That has me worried too... but I downloaded his interview from Giants.com and aside from that, I think the "sky is falling" scenarios are a little far-fetched. He wants to "minimally" change the defense... a few "tweaks," but that's it. He wants to still dial up a lotta blitzes, but doesn't like zone blitzes as a DL in space isn't playing to his strengths... would prefer LB and secondary blitzes. His scheme will remain an "attacking" scheme that is largely the same as Spags.' He is excited about the personnel rotation that will happen with Canty and Bernard on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Spags wanted to coach from the booth too but he couldn't see over the desk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Spags wanted to coach from the booth too but he couldn't see over the desk. woah- what happened to the I ♥ Spags guy? The bloom is off that rose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 woah- what happened to the I ¢¾ Spags guy? The bloom is off that rose. I've always made affectionate jabs at Spags' compact awesomeness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 I read Sheridan plans to stay up on the box, and this sends Tim Lewis shivers up my spine. I’m worried about losing that Spags-mojo that seemed to fire up this defense. On the flip side, I need to remind myself that some good defensive coordinators called the game upstairs. But the fact that all my favorite DCs (Fox, Belichick, Parcell, Spags) strolled the sidelines has my spidey senses a little worried. Please tell me I'm wrong. I made this same post, my man. I agree. It's sad, but it seems we no longer have a defensive coach who has as much fire as his players. Also, he said a lot of scary things about not asking players to blitz in zone coverage and a lot of other stupid changes that worked perfectly when Spags implemented them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 That has me worried too... but I downloaded his interview from Giants.com and aside from that, I think the "sky is falling" scenarios are a little far-fetched. He wants to "minimally" change the defense... a few "tweaks," but that's it. He wants to still dial up a lotta blitzes, but doesn't like zone blitzes as a DL in space isn't playing to his strengths... would prefer LB and secondary blitzes. His scheme will remain an "attacking" scheme that is largely the same as Spags.' He is excited about the personnel rotation that will happen with Canty and Bernard on board. So he'd rather defensive ends drop into zone coverage? I guess I don't understand what he means... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 So he'd rather defensive ends drop into zone coverage? I guess I don't understand what he means... hes saying he doesnt want dlinemen dropping into coverage. some of spags zone blitzes involved that. sheridan wants to get away from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 hes saying he doesnt want dlinemen dropping into coverage. some of spags zone blitzes involved that. sheridan wants to get away from that. So if dlinemen are going to stay at the point of attack, and linebackers and cornerbacks are going to blitz, who is going to cover WRs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 So he'd rather defensive ends drop into zone coverage? I guess I don't understand what he means... No, thats what he's trying to get away from. Thats a Spags thing...and I think last year other teams started to sort of get a read on how to move the ball on our D, there was lots of space for RBs to get open underneath with all those zone blitzes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 So if dlinemen are going to stay at the point of attack, and linebackers and cornerbacks are going to blitz, who is going to cover WRs? lol...well, they're not ALL going to blitz at the same time. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 lol...well, they're not ALL going to blitz at the same time. :lol: :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 So if dlinemen are going to stay at the point of attack, and linebackers and cornerbacks are going to blitz, who is going to cover WRs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 ahh, alright, i'm sorry... anyway, he's not right, our defensive ends are far more athletic than our linebackers and would actually fair better in coverage than Antonio Pierce and Danny Clark, that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 No, thats what he's trying to get away from. Thats a Spags thing...and I think last year other teams started to sort of get a read on how to move the ball on our D, there was lots of space for RBs to get open underneath with all those zone blitzes. See, I tend to think that was because Antonio Pierce was following the RB across the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 ahh, alright, i'm sorry... anyway, he's not right, our defensive ends are far more athletic than our linebackers and would actually fair better in coverage than Antonio Pierce and Danny Clark, that's for sure. It's a LOT harder position to do it from though. You have to start in a three-point stance to fake out the offense then cycle back into position. Having athletic DEs like we do is the only reason we could attempt it. Fact is it just wasn't that successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 It's a LOT harder position to do it from though. You have to start in a three-point stance to fake out the offense then cycle back into position. Having athletic DEs like we do is the only reason we could attempt it. Fact is it just wasn't that successful. Alright, I just don't see any benefit in relying on our pass coverage liabilities to...pass cover... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStroud Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 This guy has disaster written all over him have you seen his picture......he looks like Mike Martz's younger brother anyone who thinks football players dont need the rah rah........is a yo yo nice of him to let the opponents know he's not dropping the D linemen into coverage...that should make their lives easier what is he going to do let the fat little midget in the middle cover? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 This guy has disaster written all over him have you seen his picture......he looks like Mike Martz's younger brother anyone who thinks football players dont need the rah rah........is a yo yo nice of him to let the opponents know he's not dropping the D linemen into coverage...that should make their lives easier what is he going to do let the fat little midget in the middle cover? LOL I guess that's what my gripe is, too...I never really noticed the Gmen getting picked apart in zone...it was more when Antonio Pierce, Danny Clark, or any one of our subpar at best linebackers attempted to cover. At least we got Boley and Simtin now, though...both should immediately be starters, IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 See, I tend to think that was because Antonio Pierce was following the RB across the field. heh...yeah, there's that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 nice of him to let the opponents know he's not dropping the D linemen into coverage...that should make their lives easier Good call. Let's take two of the best pass rushers in the game...and make them do something else. Dropping DEs into zone cover is not an answer for Pierce's coverage issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 The Dreaded Zone Blitz was a Tim Lewis specialty as well. I want my D-line man at the point of attack and going after the QB or running back. Not trying to run after TE or RB's in coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStroud Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Good call. Let's take two of the best pass rushers in the game...and make them do something else. Dropping DEs into zone cover is not an answer for Pierce's coverage issues. uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh it does not work that way exactly the coverage by the D lineman occurs occassionaly to throw off the other team......its not a steady diet Pierce is a "dead man walking" on the field........hes a QB of the D with no athletic ability whatsoever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 nice of him to let the opponents know he's not dropping the D linemen into coverage...that should make their lives easier what is he going to do let the fat little midget in the middle cover? LOL Might wanna read your own post Jack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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