jints Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Requested trade, I would love to see this guy with the Giants playing OLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lubeck Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Ah the offseason when every big name seems perfect for the Giants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Requested trade, I would love to see this guy with the Giants playing OLB. Send him to the Redskins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedinBlue Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Send him to the Redskins. I'm not sure I'd want to see him in our division. He's young and in only his second year in professional football, he led the entire NFL in tackles. He's a stud linebacker. I don't think he'd fit into the Giants' defensive schemes so well, but I do know that I don't want the Giants to face him twice a year because he's in our devision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandolphScott Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 I'm not sure I'd want to see him in our division. He's young and in only his second year in professional football, he led the entire NFL in tackles. He's a stud linebacker. I don't think he'd fit into the Giants' defensive schemes so well, but I do know that I don't want the Giants to face him twice a year because he's in our devision. He was drafted in 2004. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedinBlue Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 He was drafted in 2004. Yup....same year that Eli was drafted and the first linebacker taken in a draft filled with great linebacker prospects. Hell...he was taken ahead of linebacker Karlos Danby, who has gotten less fanfare than Vilma, but still got tagged as a franchise player by Arizona. I wouldn't underestimate Vilma. He will likely retire in 10 years with a half dozen pro-bowls to his name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandolphScott Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Yup....same year that Eli was drafted and the first linebacker taken in a draft filled with great linebacker prospects. Hell...he was taken ahead of linebacker Karlos Danby, who has gotten less fanfare than Vilma, but still got tagged as a franchise player by Arizona. I wouldn't underestimate Vilma. He will likely retire in 10 years with a half dozen pro-bowls to his name. So how is he in the league for 2 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedinBlue Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 So how is he in the league for 2 years? Ahhhh.....I was wondering why you came back with "he was drafted in 2004" I went back and read my original line, which said: "He's young and in only his second year in professional football, he led the entire NFL in tackles". It is one of those cases where lack of good sentance construction and punctuation leads to the ole English 101 problem of "ambiguous reference", but I digress. It would have been better stated by me if I had written it this way: "He's young. And in only his second year in professional football, he led ......... or better yet, "He's young...only 26 years old...and in only his second year in the NFL (at age 24), he led the entire league in tackles". My bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lubeck Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Definitely do not want Vilma in the division. The only reason I don't want him is because of the cost to get him, not because I disrespect him as a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlb37 Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Requested trade, I would love to see this guy with the Giants playing OLB. would be a really bad idea to pick this kid up. His knee issues raise major question marks and he really only had 1 good season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Ah the offseason when every big name seems perfect for the Giants. But you can't argue that Vilma is a definite upgrade either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lubeck Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 But you can't argue that Vilma is a definite upgrade either. No I can't but the notion of wasting draft picks to get him is what makes it a pipe dream. The type of topic I would expect Osi to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Ahhhh.....I was wondering why you came back with "he was drafted in 2004" I went back and read my original line, which said: "He's young and in only his second year in professional football, he led the entire NFL in tackles". It is one of those cases where lack of good sentance construction and punctuation leads to the ole English 101 problem of "ambiguous reference", but I digress. It would have been better stated by me if I had written it this way: "He's young. And in only his second year in professional football, he led ......... or better yet, "He's young...only 26 years old...and in only his second year in the NFL (at age 24), he led the entire league in tackles". My bad! The moral of this story here kids, don't major in English at Syracuse, it's like Third Grade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 By the way, Vilma is a good leader but he's small. He makes a lot of tackles but in the grind of the NFC East my fear is that big running games would wear him down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 The moral of this story here kids, don't major in English at Syracuse, it's like Third Grade. It took me a while to understand this response till I realized there are punctuations here.. damn you Prince Nas.... "Shouldda had your V8" :::POP::: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 By the way, Vilma is a good leader but he's small. He makes a lot of tackles but in the grind of the NFC East my fear is that big running games would wear him down. Agree....a linebacker's instincts and mentality with a SS' body. He would be on IR no later than the 8th game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Ahhhh.....I was wondering why you came back with "he was drafted in 2004" I went back and read my original line, which said: "He's young and in only his second year in professional football, he led the entire NFL in tackles". It is one of those cases where lack of good sentance construction and punctuation leads to the ole English 101 problem of "ambiguous reference", but I digress. It would have been better stated by me if I had written it this way: "He's young. And in only his second year in professional football, he led ......... or better yet, "He's young...only 26 years old...and in only his second year in the NFL (at age 24), he led the entire league in tackles". My bad! Yah...you could totally have written that so it made more sense. He's been in the NFL for 4 years, and in his 2nd year, he led the NFL in tackles. Because it still sounds like you're trying to say he's only been in the league for 2 years and he led the NFL in tackles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Yah...you could totally have written that so it made more sense. He's been in the NFL for 4 years, and in his 2nd year, he led the NFL in tackles. Because it still sounds like you're trying to say he's only been in the league for 2 years and he led the NFL in tackles. Relax.. Bleedin had a few too many drinks, that's all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 I see absolutely nothing wrong with Bleedin's response. Makes sense. Read it carefully and you'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exit 117 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Vilma is a fucking monster, too bad the Jets are too ignorant to realize the 3-4 really sucks for them and Vilma and they should have built around him and not away from him. Oh well. Jets blow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 No I can't but the notion of wasting draft picks to get him is what makes it a pipe dream. The type of topic I would expect Osi to start. Believe me when I tell you, if we would have had Kurt Warner we would have made it to the NF Championship game. :brooding: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedinBlue Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 No I can't but the notion of wasting draft picks to get him is what makes it a pipe dream. The type of topic I would expect Osi to start. Supposedly, he is available for a 4th round draft pick....which is pretty cheap in my opinion. He is smaller than average for the position, but he's extremely "football smart" and extremely athletic, able to pick things up quicker than almost everyone and can make the change on the fly....and for his size, he plays like a friggin monster. Personally, I love little guys with something to prove (Dave Meggett, Ahmad Bradshaw, etc.)....sorta like that old youtube clip of a chihauhau pissing on the big dog's face. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nZqPoX28h8 but I digress. His knee is the biggest issue. He had surgery on it three months ago and question marks still linger about whether or not he will return to form. He's not looking for big money, but wants a long term deal with a winning team. I will trust Reese, TC and Spags with this one. I have great faith in their ability to fit the right pieces into the defensive puzzle and their ability to make good decisions. And booyah sir ......I graduated from Binghamton U., and only went to Syracuse U. for one semester of grad school, in which I did not have to take any English courses. But I must be honest and say that S.U.'s level of difficulty is about a third (or less) of what it was at B.U. Syracuse is a great sports school, but if you are looking for intense academic study...S.U. will dissapoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boohyah Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Supposedly, he is available for a 4th round draft pick....which is pretty cheap in my opinion. He is smaller than average for the position, but he's extremely "football smart" and extremely athletic, able to pick things up quicker than almost everyone and can make the change on the fly....and for his size, he plays like a friggin monster. Personally, I love little guys with something to prove (Dave Meggett, Ahmad Bradshaw, etc.)....sorta like that old youtube clip of a chihauhau pissing on the big dog's face. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nZqPoX28h8 but I digress. His knee is the biggest issue. He had surgery on it three months ago and question marks still linger about whether or not he will return to form. He's not looking for big money, but wants a long term deal with a winning team. I will trust Reese, TC and Spags with this one. I have great faith in their ability to fit the right pieces into the defensive puzzle and their ability to make good decisions. And booyah sir ......I graduated from Binghamton U., and only went to Syracuse U. for one semester of grad school, in which I did not have to take any English courses. But I must be honest and say that S.U.'s level of difficulty is about a third (or less) of what it was at B.U. Syracuse is a great sports school, but if you are looking for intense academic study...S.U. will dissapoint. I thought you were from Syracuse Bleedin, my bad. So your alma mater beat up on Manhattan yesterday on the road. I was supposed to go to that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedinBlue Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 I thought you were from Syracuse Bleedin, my bad. So your alma mater beat up on Manhattan yesterday on the road. I was supposed to go to that game. Nah....I live almost equally distant from Syracuse, Binghamton, and Ithaca. My school choices were based on convenience.....well, that and I couldn't get into Cornell. Yeah...I was a little surprised that Binghamton could knock off Manhattan...although, Manhattan ain't the same since Gonzales went to Seton Hall. Regardless...Binghamton hasn't fared too well since going to Div. I. I had big hopes for them, especially in their first year when they put a beat down on North Carolina, only for Carolina to comeback and win the game on a last second prayer shot. The game was televised and I thought it would be a good recruiting tool, but the recruits haven't exactly knocked down the door. After signing Kevin Broadus (assistant coach at Georgetown) to be the head coach of BU's basketball program, I thought things would really pick up. Of course, this is his first year so maybe we're jumping the gun on his influence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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