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Goliath Posted March 11, 2006 Author Share Posted March 11, 2006 Four-time Pro Bowl cornerback Sam Madison talked with host Rich Eisen via Dolphins cam on NFL Total Access to talk about Adewale Ogunleye's holdout, Miami's quarterback competition and Madison's charity event. NFL Total Access airs Monday through Friday at 7 p.m. ET/PT (aired June 15, 2004). NFL Network NFL Network Analysis, opinions, features and more! Download Super Bowl XXXIX radio broadcasts and highlights to your MP3 player! Field Pass Listen LIVE to NFL games, plus watch video news and features of your favorite team. Rich Eisen: Who better to get the pulse of all things Fish than the guy who is third all-time on the list of interceptions for Dolphins' history? That would be Sam Madison on Dolphins cam. How you doing, Sam? Sam Madison: Hey, Rich. I'm doing really good, and I must say that you look extremely well today. Eisen: Thanks, just for you Sam, thank you. And I must say that you look pretty fresh for a guy who just had two picks in practice. We heard about that today! Madison: Well, thank you, things are going well down here for me. The defensive line is doing extremely well and getting some pressure in on there, and I've just been at the right place at the right time, like I've been for the last seven or eight years. Hopefully it will roll over into the new season. I need a couple new picks. Eisen: And you've had the third-most interceptions for the past six seasons, Sam. What makes a good cornerback in terms of getting a pick? Is it luck or instinct, or both? Madison: Pretty much a little bit of both. You know, some guys say we are lucky, but I go off instincts, and I think that's why I'm one of those guys who, like you said, have had the most picks over the last couple years. Definitely, having guys like Jason Taylor, Adewale (Ogunleye), Junior (Seau) and Zach (Thomas) putting pressure on the quarterbacks, it allows me to do my job and makes my job a little easier. Eisen: Let's talk about Adewale right now. What is the latest with this guy, Sam? Madison: I really can't tell you right now. Hopefully he will do the right thing. He has had two excellent seasons. He is one of those guys we depend -- myself and Patrick Surtain -- to get pressure on the quarterback, which he has done, and it allows our job to be a lot easier. But I definitely hope both sides can come in to an agreement, because not only is he a great player, but he is a great friend of mine, so I hope both sides can work it out. Eisen: We recently spoke to Junior Seau on Dolphins cam last month, and he was either oblivious to it or didn't want to talk about it. But are you guys talking about this sort of stuff? Or are you just going about your business? Madison: No. You know, you have fun with it and talk about it in the locker room, but it's one of those things that most guys go through. You know, myself, I went through it when I was coming up, and Zach and Jason and Junior's been through it, and Patrick Surtain, and it's gonna be a lot of other players that will go through the same thing. But it all falls to him and his agent to get things done -- and to the Dolphins organization. And I think it's gonna work out well, and hopefully they get him in here to camp and get him going. Eisen: What advice would you give him, as someone who has gone through it? Madison: Come to camp. (Laughs) Eisen: Would you have taken that advice when you were going through it? Madison: Come to camp. (Laughs) Eisen: (Laughs) Well, very good. Well, come camp, who is going to be quarterback? We're putting you on the hot seat, and there seems to be several hot spots -- so to speak --with the Dolphins. Who is gonna be the QB? Madison: I'm gonna say it like this: Come to camp, Wally. ( Laughs) I don't know. That is a very touchy subject here in South Florida. Those two guys are really competing, and now that Sage Rosenfels has put in his bid as well, I think it's gonna be very tough in training camp and come the preseason to have all three of those guys competing. But I really can't say because all of them are getting work in and doing a good job and -- besides today with me picking off a couple passes -- but they are doing a great job and the best man will win. And I think it's great for our team for every position to have competition, to have battles, and that's just one of those positions that have those battles. Some of the slots are locked in; Ricky Williams has his slot locked in. Eisen: It's interesting. You say that, Sam, because this is a great way to show fans the way that competition works in camp, because if you get a couple picks, wouldn't you say that might affect, in a way, the quarterback race going on right now? How do you go about your business at camp? Madison: Well, you kinda put that aside. Most people say that corners have to have amnesia, and I think that quarterbacks also have to have that. You know, after a sack or getting pounded or throwing an interception for a touchdown, then coming right back out and making a drive. With those guys throwing an interception, they have to come out and get that out of their brain and work hard. But this defense, we have 10 out of 11 starters coming back, and we have guys that have been together for a while, and we know the ups and downs of each other's games and we have a pretty good defense. And for those guys to have a new system and have new play calling, it's pretty tough for them to come out when we have been playing together for the last four, five and six years. We know what we're doing, and it's kinda unfair for them to be going against us because for the last six or seven years we have had one of the top five defenses in the league. Eisen: So what's been going on this offseason, Sam? Would you call it normal for the Dolphins? Madison: Yes, it's definitely normal, and for the past few years the defense has pretty much carried this team, and we've made some additions to our offense. David Boston is looking great, being that some people have said that he is not doing what he is supposed to be doing early on, but the guy is doing what we have been asking him to do. He is just a class act. He is just a quiet person; once he gets out on the field, in the locker room, or in the weight room, he just goes out and does what he has to do, and I think that he will be a great pickup for us if he can have that breakout season like he did in Arizona a couple years back. So I'm looking for big things from him. I talk to him all the time every day. The only thing he is having problems adjusting to is the weather down here. Pretty much everybody has to do that. Eisen: Let's talk about your charity event that you are having down there: "Cuts for a Cause." Tell us about that, Sam. Madison: Well, it's something fun that I wanted to do for fun. A lot of guys have golf tournaments, other guys have fishing tournaments or bowling tournaments, and I wanted to do something different. So I was trying to get old-school people like Joe Rose in here to get a haircut before he goes on TV looking a mess, but it was fun and it was a great turnout even though we had a little rain. We had live music, some hors d'oeuvres, bottled water and juice as my drinks, but it was fun and a lot of guys turned out, and I think it's something that is going to be very popular in years to come. Sam Madison is begging Adewale Ogunleye to settle his differences with the Dolphins. Eisen: So people just come and get their hair cut? That's basically the gist of it? Madison: Yeah, pretty much. It was held in Hollywood, Florida. You know, the mayor and a lot of other bigwigs were there. It was basically like a meet-and-greet and it was basically trying to get people back into the Hollywood community, and it turned out great and it was fun, and we raised some money for the kids. Eisen: I love it. Bigwigs, and it's called "Cuts For a Cause," and it's put on by a guy with no hair. I love it. Madison: Pretty much trying to get you guys to look decent, trying to get you guys to come onto my level. I see a little peak in the front. (Laughs) Eisen: I'm close. (Laughs) I'm close. It won't take much, and next time I'll be there. Madison: Hey man, don't hang on, just let it go. (Laughs) Guys with bald heads like myself and Jason Taylor with the bald heads, we just let it go. Eisen: Hey, if I'm guaranteed to look as good as you and Jason Taylor if I went and let it go. Thanks for joining us, Sam. Madison: Hey, thanks for having me, Rich. Eisen: Sure thing. Sam Madison, the first-ever cornerback selected for the Pro Bowl from the Miami Dolphins, joining us on Dolphins cam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Goliath Posted March 11, 2006 Author Share Posted March 11, 2006 OK I'm done with that. Feel free to add more pics of the newest Giant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 "Don't pull a Will Allen and drop that INT" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exit 117 Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 "Don't pull a Will Allen and drop that INT" He has 5 INTs over his last 47 games... Not all that impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njsmalls Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 He has 5 INTs over his last 47 games... Not all that impressive. That's probably better than Will Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 Will Allen has 4 in the last 59 games. Looking at his stats (W. Allen), I wonder what happened between his first and second year. In Allen's first year, he had 4 INTs, in his second he had 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
27Hampton Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 The BIG difference in the picks fellas is that Will Allen was thrown at all the time, even more so when Will Peterson was healthy throughout their careers. If you were a QB or an O-Coord, wouldn't you? Now especially last year, nobody through Madison's way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exit 117 Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 The BIG difference in the picks fellas is that Will Allen was thrown at all the time, even more so when Will Peterson was healthy throughout their careers. If you were a QB or an O-Coord, wouldn't you? Now especially last year, nobody through Madison's way. That is complete bullshit. It's not like he is never thrown on. He just isn't the INT machine you want him to be. He will, however, be MUCH better than Allen in coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gateb Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 That is complete bullshit. It's not like he is never thrown on. He just isn't the INT machine you want him to be. He will, however, be MUCH better than Allen in coverage. Sad the Jets fan here has to put the nail right on the head. I expected more out of Giants fans Madison will get some picks for us. Not a given but I'm pretty sure of that. He won't get 10 INTs or some extreme high number like that. But I guess there is always a chance. However, I think he should improve especially if we sign Lavar with our front 7 and the pass rush they may put on the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
27Hampton Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 If you guys knew your football like you tend to think you do, you would know that OC's go into games at times with specific plans to throw at guys (corners) and/or specifically not to throw at guys, taking advantage of matchups. If you also did your homework you'd realize that last year Madison was their best corner, you would assume he wasn't thrown at as much as some corners. Some simple knowledge about the game of football, not rocket science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nutty Sack Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 That is complete bullshit. It's not like he is never thrown on. He just isn't the INT machine you want him to be. He will, however, be MUCH better than Allen in coverage. Fireman Ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exit 117 Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 If you guys knew your football like you tend to think you do, you would know that OC's go into games at times with specific plans to throw at guys (corners) and/or specifically not to throw at guys, taking advantage of matchups. If you also did your homework you'd realize that last year Madison was their best corner, you would assume he wasn't thrown at as much as some corners. Some simple knowledge about the game of football, not rocket science. Saying that his INT numbers were down because he wasn't thrown at is just ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nutty Sack Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 Saying that his INT numbers were down because he wasn't thrown at is just ridiculous. A very sad commentary........a Jet Fan on a Giant board, Fireman Ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
27Hampton Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 Saying that his INT numbers were down because he wasn't thrown at is just ridiculous. If a corner has less opportunities for INT's, chances are....he'll have less INT's. Why that is such a difficult concept to grasp is beyond me. I'm not saying it's THEE reason, but I feel what is ridiculous is to dismiss that very basic concept of football. For the first time in 8 years, Patrick Surtain wasn't playing the opposite side of the field. Are you to tell me that as an Offensive Coordinator, you don't know that?? And since you know that, aren't you going to make a concerted effort to throw to the other side of the field? Isn't that just football common sense? Isn't it also common sense that if you have less footballs thrown to your side of the field, that very well might effect your INT total? Maybe it's me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exit 117 Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 (edited) If a corner has less opportunities for INT's, chances are....he'll have less INT's. Why that is such a difficult concept to grasp is beyond me. I'm not saying it's THEE reason, but I feel what is ridiculous is to dismiss that very basic concept of football. For the first time in 8 years, Patrick Surtain wasn't playing the opposite side of the field. Are you to tell me that as an Offensive Coordinator, you don't know that?? And since you know that, aren't you going to make a concerted effort to throw to the other side of the field? Isn't that just football common sense? Isn't it also common sense that if you have less footballs thrown to your side of the field, that very well might effect your INT total? Maybe it's me. When Patrick Surtain WAS with Miami in '04, how come Madison had zero INTs in a full 16 games? He isn't the ballhawk that Allen wasn't. Edited March 12, 2006 by Exit 117 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
27Hampton Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 When Patrick Surtain WAS with Miami in '04, how come Madison had zero INTs in a full 16 games? He isn't the ballhawk that Allen wasn't. I told you I wasn't claiming this was the end all reason. I'm trying to inject some football common sense into the conversation, but it's obvious you're not hearing things that don't jive 100% with the way you think. You're probably another guy who bases his opinions on CBs soley by their INT total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exit 117 Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 I told you I wasn't claiming this was the end all reason. I'm trying to inject some football common sense into the conversation, but it's obvious you're not hearing things that don't jive 100% with the way you think. You're probably another guy who bases his opinions on CBs soley by their INT total. Alright, whatever you say. I don't do that, but I'm just saying regardless of how everyone here wants to view Madison, he isn't the INT CB they want. He's an older Will Allen who is better in coverage. And I don't judge CBs based solely on their INTs, you dumbass. Otherwise. I wouldn't be so pleased with the Jets cutting Ty Law, would I? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleG490 Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 MADISON OWNS THE JETS WHO DOESNT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
27Hampton Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Alright, whatever you say. I don't do that, but I'm just saying regardless of how everyone here wants to view Madison, he isn't the INT CB they want. He's an older Will Allen who is better in coverage. And I don't judge CBs based solely on their INTs, you dumbass. Otherwise. I wouldn't be so pleased with the Jets cutting Ty Law, would I? How would I know how you feel about Ty Law? 1. I don't give a shit 2. I don't even know who you are. Good point though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nosebleed Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 MADISON OWNS THE JETS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Floyd The Barber Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 this guy is no better than Will Allen... in fact, he is older, slower and on the decline of his career...picture Brent Alexander playing corner... dry your panties... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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