gateb Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 And Foxsports.com. Lugo is a nice infielder, but Loretta had been awesome for the Sox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Jeans Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 booooooooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 i love loretta but i'd rather have lugo, good signing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plow Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 wahhh we cant keep up with the yankees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LorfTVP Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 I love how the Drew signing means nothing...even though it could be the final nail in the coffin. The Sox are pushing their limits in how high they can go and need to free up money somehow and all eyes are on Manny. What do you think about Lugo and Lowell being paid the same amount? And awesome? Loretta was good but he was nothing near awesome. Solid AVG, solid OBP, but he was dead last in SLG out of second basemen with enough AB for eligibility and his OPS ranked second to last. This guy was a singles hitter, and despite the flair for the dramatic (I was at that walkoff win against the Indians) and being a good guy, the Red Sox had no room spending in arbitration for a weaker hitter like Loretta. Once again, I love the guy, a class act. I really wanna see Drew and Ramirez both stay though. Our number five hole was murder for us last year and with Drew after Ortiz and Manny, he could help. Plus his high OBP will considerably strengthen the bottom of the lineup with his presence on base. The Red Sox really did clog the bases last year...with Loretta, Gonzalez, and Nixon clogging the bases. Loretta and Nixon were high OBP singles hitters while Gonzalez, though his SLG ranked near the midpoint, didn't get on base at an acceptable rate with an OBP of .299. Barring any more moves on the offense, which obviously isn't the case, the Red Sox would field - C-Varitek 1b-Youkilis 2b-Pedroia SS-Lugo 3b-Lowell RF-Ramirez CF-Crisp LF-Drew DH-Ortiz That's pretty strong if you ask me. Granted, other than Ortiz and Manny, there are no big 20+ HR threats but I'm hoping the strengthened team as a whole can produce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gateb Posted December 7, 2006 Author Share Posted December 7, 2006 I love how the Drew signing means nothing...even though it could be the final nail in the coffin. The Sox are pushing their limits in how high they can go and need to free up money somehow and all eyes are on Manny. What do you think about Lugo and Lowell being paid the same amount? And awesome? Loretta was good but he was nothing near awesome. Solid AVG, solid OBP, but he was dead last in SLG out of second basemen with enough AB for eligibility and his OPS ranked second to last. This guy was a singles hitter, and despite the flair for the dramatic (I was at that walkoff win against the Indians) and being a good guy, the Red Sox had no room spending in arbitration for a weaker hitter like Loretta. Once again, I love the guy, a class act. I really wanna see Drew and Ramirez both stay though. Our number five hole was murder for us last year and with Drew after Ortiz and Manny, he could help. Plus his high OBP will considerably strengthen the bottom of the lineup with his presence on base. The Red Sox really did clog the bases last year...with Loretta, Gonzalez, and Nixon clogging the bases. Loretta and Nixon were high OBP singles hitters while Gonzalez, though his SLG ranked near the midpoint, didn't get on base at an acceptable rate with an OBP of .299. Barring any more moves on the offense, which obviously isn't the case, the Red Sox would field - C-Varitek 1b-Youkilis 2b-Pedroia SS-Lugo 3b-Lowell RF-Ramirez CF-Crisp LF-Drew DH-Ortiz That's pretty strong if you ask me. Granted, other than Ortiz and Manny, there are no big 20+ HR threats but I'm hoping the strengthened team as a whole can produce. Drew should have the expectations planted on him of being a 20+ home run guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LorfTVP Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 Drew should have the expectations planted on him of being a 20+ home run guy. Well, Drew does have loads of potential...nobody can deny that. It's his attitude and injury history which are worrisome. I hope Fenway plays to his strengths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Jeans Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 This offseason really shows how much of a bargain the Mets got Reyes and Wright at 23M and 55M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LorfTVP Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 This offseason really shows how much of a bargain the Mets got Reyes and Wright at 23M and 55M But honestly, just wait until next offseason when the real talent gets on the market. Experts admit that this is a weak FA class which makes it so much more amazing that they players are getting these sorts of contracts. Look at this talent that will arrive on the market in 2008. C - Jorge Posada, Ivan Rodriguez, Michael Barrett, Paul LoDuca 1b - Adam Dunn (/OF) 2b - Jeff Kent, Marcus Giles SS - Michael Young, Juan Uribe, Carlos Guillen, David Eckstein, Omar Vizquel 3b - Mike Lowell OF - Bobby Abreu, Ichiro Suzuki, Andruw Jones, Vernon Wells, Torii Hunter, Eric Byrnes, Corey Patterson, Milton Bradley, Aaron Rowand SP - John Smoltz, Carlos Zambrano, Curt Schilling (says he'll retire), Jason Jennings, Jake Westbrook, Freddy Garcia, Kenny Rogers, Randy Johnson, Doug Davis, Jon Lieber, Bartolo Colon RP - Joe Nathan, Mariano Rivera, Trevor Hoffman, Jason Isringhausen, Bob Wickman, Scott Linebrink Sure a couple of these guys will retire, but honestly, with top tier names like Ichiro, Jones, Wells, Zambrano, Nathan, and Young and second tier guys like Dunn, Abreu, Hunter, etc. Just wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 But honestly, just wait until next offseason when the real talent gets on the market. Experts admit that this is a weak FA class which makes it so much more amazing that they players are getting these sorts of contracts. Look at this talent that will arrive on the market in 2008. C - Jorge Posada, Ivan Rodriguez, Michael Barrett, Paul LoDuca 1b - Adam Dunn (/OF) 2b - Jeff Kent, Marcus Giles SS - Michael Young, Juan Uribe, Carlos Guillen, David Eckstein, Omar Vizquel 3b - Mike Lowell OF - Bobby Abreu, Ichiro Suzuki, Andruw Jones, Vernon Wells, Torii Hunter, Eric Byrnes, Corey Patterson, Milton Bradley, Aaron Rowand SP - John Smoltz, Carlos Zambrano, Curt Schilling (says he'll retire), Jason Jennings, Jake Westbrook, Freddy Garcia, Kenny Rogers, Randy Johnson, Doug Davis, Jon Lieber, Bartolo Colon RP - Joe Nathan, Mariano Rivera, Trevor Hoffman, Jason Isringhausen, Bob Wickman, Scott Linebrink Sure a couple of these guys will retire, but honestly, with top tier names like Ichiro, Jones, Wells, Zambrano, Nathan, and Young and second tier guys like Dunn, Abreu, Hunter, etc. Just wow. I think Young will be resigned before the year is up. During last season Daniels was saying resigning Young is his top priority and he wants to have it done before his contract is up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LorfTVP Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 I think Young will be resigned before the year is up. During last season Daniels was saying resigning Young is his top priority and he wants to have it done before his contract is up. Yah, I was initially going to give my opinion on who would retire, resign, etc. but then I felt like it was too many people so I didn't mention it. I was going to write that there's no way that Michael Young is leaving...he's part of the Ranger's core. Schilling, Smoltz, Johnson, Wickman, Hoffman, and Vizquel could all retire by next year as well. Still, those OF could all get equal or more than Soriano did this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 Yah, I was initially going to give my opinion on who would retire, resign, etc. but then I felt like it was too many people so I didn't mention it. I was going to write that there's no way that Michael Young is leaving...he's part of the Ranger's core. Schilling, Smoltz, Johnson, Wickman, Hoffman, and Vizquel could all retire by next year as well. Still, those OF could all get equal or more than Soriano did this year. I asked T.R. Sullivan, the guy who does Rangers Mailbag, he said the Rangers are busy right now but they want to talk to Mikes agent before the offseason is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 Yah, I was initially going to give my opinion on who would retire, resign, etc. but then I felt like it was too many people so I didn't mention it. I was going to write that there's no way that Michael Young is leaving...he's part of the Ranger's core. Schilling, Smoltz, Johnson, Wickman, Hoffman, and Vizquel could all retire by next year as well. Still, those OF could all get equal or more than Soriano did this year. I sent a question into the Rangers Mailbag and they answered it on the site. Makes me a little uneasy really. I know I should be focused on this offseason, and I am very much so, but I was wondering the chances of Daniels re-signing Michael Young before his contract is up? Looking at the market so far this year, Young is going to be in high demand. Can we lock him up beforehand? -- Mark A., Clear Brook, Va. Young is signed to a four-year, $10.5 million contract for the 2004-07 seasons, with a $4 million option for 2008 that was extremely favorable to the club. It now seems that Young probably cost himself at least $15 million or more in signing that deal. The Rangers would like to sign him long-term, but Young seems more inclined to wait. The two sides will talk this offseason, but unless this contract is extremely favorable to Young, it will be difficult to get something done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LorfTVP Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 I sent a question into the Rangers Mailbag and they answered it on the site. Makes me a little uneasy really. I love the concept of franchise players and it just kills you when their allegiance wavers. You've had your Nolans, (excuse me for not knowing more, I'm not well versed in Rangers history) the Yankees have had their Ruths, Dimaggios, Gehrigs, Mantles, and Jeters and we've had our Williams', Yastrzemskis, Fisks, Doerrs, Garciparras, and now Ortiz. I hope Michael Young stays as the face of the Rangers for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plow Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 how do you all think Mark Charles Teixeira will look in pinstripes in 2008? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LorfTVP Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 how do you all think Mark Charles Teixeira will look in pinstripes in 2008? Granted he'd demand a heavy pricetag but I honestly wouldn't be surprised. That's sort of painful, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 I love the concept of franchise players and it just kills you when their allegiance wavers. You've had your Nolans, (excuse me for not knowing more, I'm not well versed in Rangers history) the Yankees have had their Ruths, Dimaggios, Gehrigs, Mantles, and Jeters and we've had our Williams', Yastrzemskis, Fisks, Doerrs, Garciparras, and now Ortiz. I hope Michael Young stays as the face of the Rangers for a long time. Free agency killed sports. Everyone says fantasy sports is killing team loyalty, but that endesd when FA started. A guy comes up with a team through the minors, gets beter and better and establishes himself and after 6 years goeas to the highest bidder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 how do you all think Mark Charles Teixeira will look in pinstripes in 2008? Probly about as good as Arod does, but not as Good as Sori looked in a rangers uni. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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