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Yeah, because Moss does a great job on kick returns How tall is ginn?

I bet Tiki's gonna cover the game too.

Yeah but no one was making Trey Junkin out to be the savior I liked the part with Eli throwing the remote two feet over his gf.

If it was our home game then I'd be really pissed off. We better have a bye that next week. It'll probably be Monday Night football, then that week we'll have a bye.

Payton was a target in previous years though and Mangini stems from the belichick tree which certainly helps. I'm thinking that if we don't get past the divisional round Coughlin is gone and Cowher is in.

I bet he's gonna get the franchise tag in Chicago.

People who are pissed: Who did you have in mind? The choices are limited guys.

He gets open, he has speed, and he can return kicks. That's what I think of him at least, I don't watch college. What do others think of him?

DL-Robbins- The best player that played 16 games LB- Pierce- The best player that played 16 games Secondary-Madison- Played pretty good when he actually played this year considering he was in a shitty sysytem.

I think he still has nightmares about Brian Dawkins.

Yeah... as a head coach.

I highly doubt that's our mindset heading into the off-season.

It's all about how much money they are asking for. I think it's time that we start building our secondary through the draft. I would love a guy like Samuel or Clements but if they ask for too much we should shy away. We need a guy who will go over the middle and get open and catch everything thrown to him. I like Mike Furrey, but do you guys think he was a product of Martz's system this past year? For now, I'm gonna enjoy the playoffs. Now the real teams play. I'm gonna enjoy the matchups, enjoy the super bowl, then I'll think more about the off-season.

That's the pick I've been talking about for the last few weeks. I haven't seen much of the kid, but the shiftiness and speed that I've seen in a few of his highlight reels impresses me.

Don't all athletes get identified with one name anyway? And I really hate this discussion. I just want to watch a baseball game with nothing else going around it. Just good old fashioned baseball. Screw BALCO. Because of them I never got to see the true way baseball is played.

Could Sosa be eligible by 2010?

I think if we go 5-10 I'll be really scared about us not even playing the 16th game. We should stay where we are. There are so many players you can draft in the middle of the draft that can be just as good as your first rounder. Hopefully we stay where we are, and maybe draft a guy like Ginn, or Lynch, or someone in the secondary.

Keep in mind Tuck and Osi were hurt for some time too. Kiwi had a hot start when he came in but was a no-show down the stretch. He made some plays, but I agree, it did not seem like he was utilized as good as he could have been,

I know you aren't happy about him coming back and I can see why but it's time to move on. I wanted him to be fired too but now that I think about it, I have no one in mind. Who would you have liked?

Apparently he was more valuable against the run then we thought. I thought he held his position well against the run when he was playing. Even when teams were kicking our ass around the first 3 weeks, our run D wasn't that bad. It's just that our pass defenense sucked.

Dick LeBeau was shit as the Bengals coach and then went back to Steelers as DC he led them to be one of the best in the league. How was capers when he was a DC? That's what I'm more worried about.

Lewis had talent here. What did Lynn have? But our defense wasn't as bad as a defense. I'm going to agree with golfingkid on this one

Tiki- self-explanatory Snee- he should've made the pro bowl, he's awesome at blocking on the counter plays and is a really phsical guard. I like him a lot. Burress- clearly our most productive. Can't argue with the stats.

At least Lewis is gone.

I'm as thrilled as anyone else but who do you think we have in mind?