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i would give up next year as rebuilding if belichick felt he needed to clean house of malcontents. i haven't heard any player say he didn't like playing for him.

Rumor out here is Beane wants a deal involving Milledge for Joe Blanton.

raiders last new years eve?

i doubt he even would have picked it up again.

thats a bit of a back track from your original statement. to me, if shiancoe plays, the defense doesn't have to account for him. while if shockey plays, they have to double plax and put the ss on shockey.... which opens up other options.

I don't know why he had the dropsies today but that completion after dropping the ball in his own end zone was favre-like. do you think our qb would have had the presence to save the game there?

looks like every defense in the NFC blows right now.

While neither is a 'complete' head coach, I give the nod to Fassel so far. He created an offense from a barren wasteland. He did what he was hired to do. Coughlin was hired to bring discipline and curb injuries. He's done neither.

So because Collingsworth said Shiancoe is a better blocker than Shockey, you believe it? This is the first game in 2 years that Shiancoe has had a positive impact on a game. Most of the time, he's dropping passes or getting dumb penalties. 31 teams in the league would love to get their hands on Shockey.

keep madison, demps and mcquarters, dump the rest and dump those helpless LB's too.

you could have just said things could go wrong with a handoff, you chose to bring up a dark day. i reciprocated.

dish...take.

ok we knew that. dan marino, mark clayton... that's why you never trust a spike.

hmm, do you think Orlando Pace was also a wasted pick?

Not many teams take out their starters, even in a blow out. This isn't the NBA, Isaiah Plow.

there was no chance for us to take gallery, he was off the table as the #2 pick. and most people had him at #2, including the Giants.

i think you're right. a team would have to overpay for lowry, a young lefty with a major league changeup. would have to be a proven hitter, preferably with speed.

When you have talent that's not acheiving its potential, the fault falls squarely on the head coach. The atmosphere was created for these guys to be vocal. You can bet Tiki would think twice about making that announcement with Parcells around. If he did, you would have seen a lot more of Jacobs. Coughlin lost this team last year at the Carolina game.

Giants are going to trade you Noah Lowry for some hitting.

a no hitter in colorado pre humidor. has to be one of the single most amazing feats in modern baseball he was much better than an average pitcher.

I can foresee the future..... in 10 years our big free agent signing will be khalil greene.

Far as I can see, only one person on this board thinks Shockey doesn't deserve it and he's entitled to his opinion Not exactly an epidemic, though.

Maybe we'll get Giles and Nevin too and they can all complain about the fog and the wind @ ATT.

...the SF Giants have signed Ryan Klesko.

they should at least get tix to hawaii paid for by all the QB's, WR's who were picked.