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jeff fisher

I'm not as positive as you, Nem. I didn't think Jacobs or Droughns were all that impressive. Bradshaw, yes but there were scrub RB's on the teams we played who were as impressive against our 2nd and 3rd teams.

oh you mean trim- i thought you were 'takin a walk on the wild side' there, jim

shave his eyebrows?

The Best Division in Baseball An Analysis of Major League wins and losses from 2003-2007 © James Hutchinson Jul 9, 2007 An analysis of the records of Major League teams by division for the years 2003-2007. One of the most contested opinions in baseball is which league, division and team is the best each year. In any year, fortunes rise and fall. In 2007, even the Yankees have fallen on hard times. An analysis of won/loss records shows that there is a consistent standard of excellence in baseball, and it is a bit of surprise. Methodology A compilation was made of won/loss records for the four and one half years 2003 to 2007 (through the all-star break) and totaled by division. This shows the relative strength of each division, since intradivisional games (games between teams in the division) will cancel each other out. Each team played 19 games each year against division rivals. Since there are different numbers of teams in division, in a 162 game schedule, there will be from 67 to 105 games against non-division foes. The resulting measurement of games over .500 (GOF) demonstrates how well the division plays overall. Results The clear leader among the divisions is a surprise. The American League West is clearly the best division under these criteria with 113 GOF for the 4 ½ year period. It is the only division to have more wins than losses in each year. The second best division was the National League West with 84 GOF, primarily to big years in 2003 and 2005, and consistent play in later years. The American League Central, considered a powerhouse division recently, suffers from the 119 loss season by Detroit in 2003. The AL East, with the Yankees and Boston, shows up as also-rans, begging the question as to whether their records are the result of beating up on Tampa Bay and Baltimore, with little impact on rest of the major leagues.(right on, xxi...) The AL West is the only division with four teams, but there seems little indication that this is a factor in its consistent performance.

thanks golfy . my point is he was a real grinder. just followed his blocks 3 yards at a time. that was our offense at the time. barber was a more dynamic RB

put a dot between the 2 and 7 and you have his rushing average.

they were losing 3-0 in the 4th inning...wow

it weighs you down, son.

I'm tired of this crap. There are 2 things that get too much attention on the Giants board: 1) I will not mention Tiki Barber in relation to his off the field antics. I will only mention him in regards to his contribution to the Giants between the hash marks. 2) Cowboy fan is only here to instigate and anyone who responds to him is dumb enough to fall into his trap. I will not be one of them.

i agree, it was ill-timed and selfish- but no, i don't think it was the reason. bad defense, bad coaching, a couple of injuries and a tougher schedule was the reason for the 2nd half demise.

we don't disagree at all. my point is who cares why they play hard as long as they do. yes, you'd like them to be a positive in the locker room but you can't have everything.

2 WS wins in 15 years existence, i'd take some of that mojo.

i think the giants are undefeated wearing their "gigantes' uniform.

I'm inclined to give Strahan a pass. He was going through some a lot of personal crap. Anyone who's been there can tell you it's not a pleasant time. I'm confident if he comes back, he'll move back into the leadership role and be the force he's always been.

in that case, i'd like to see a lot of other giants cementing their image. that's ridiculous. don't question what tiki did with a ball in his hand it's what he does with a mike in his face that's the problem.

that's his wife, bronx. all those reasons and he's the only one who seems like a field manager. The rest of the backups are just taking orders. Most of the great backups (flutie, garcia, etc.) are improvisors and change of pace guys. I think Hass is one of those guys.

he had mad hair coloring skills.

if it's my team, hasselback's my back up.

did they name it nomaas after garciaparra?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?...001&sc=1000 A sporting relationship built for speed Pete Iorizzo, Albany Times Union Sunday, August 19, 2007 - Aaron Ross, New York Giants rookie cornerback, once blazed the 40-yard dash in 4.41 seconds. During training camp, he spends two practices a day speeding around the field, stride-for-stride with NFL wide receivers. Ross can't beat his girlfriend in a race. Nor can he endure one of her workouts. Ross, the Giants' first-round draft pick in 2007, dates Sanya Richards, an Olympics-bound runner who holds the American record in the 400 meters. Ross is at the State University of New York at Albany fighting for a starting job in the Giants' secondary. Richards is traversing the globe to competitions in England and Japan and prepping for the Olympics. These days, they communicate through late-night phone calls and frequent text messages, exchanged in the moments their lives slow down. But theirs is a story of speed. "Let me tell you," Ross said, "she has wheels." Ross and Richards have not raced. Ross said he probably can edge his girlfriend in a short race but added, "Anything more than 100 meters, she can have." Asked if she thinks Ross is scared to race her, Richards laughed and said, "I think so." They met at the University of Texas almost four years ago. Their starting line was the cafeteria. Richards spotted Ross walking through the door and asked a friend, "Who is that boy?" She acted fast, true to form, and called him over to say hello. Later, while Ross played football and Richards ran track and field, they began to work out together. Or at least Ross tried. On Richards' self-described "easy" days, she asked Ross to run six 200s, followed by six 40s, followed by two more 200s. Ross paused for water after the third 200. "He was huffing and puffing," Richards said. Other days, Richards ran six 300s, followed by two 450s. Ross quit after the third 300, then ran one 450. "On the hard days, I just try to make it through," Ross said. Once Richards even organized a workout for some of Ross' Texas teammates. The Longhorns did not finish. "They were all looking at each other going, 'Man, we're not going to make it,' " Richards said. Ross, 24, and Richards, 22, stand at similar crossroads in their careers: Both enjoyed high school and collegiate success; both rest on the brink of even greater acclaim. Richards, a Jamaican native who moved to the United States at age 12 and later became the National Female Student-Athlete of the Year, ranked No. 1 in the world in the 400 for more than a year. She won a gold medal in the 2004 Olympics for her part on the 1,600 relay team. In 2008, she hopes to add an individual medal. Ross, who led Texas last season with six interceptions, won the 2006 Thorpe Award as the nation's top defensive back. The Giants drafted him with hopes he can provide instant support to a much-maligned defensive backfield. Ross sustained a setback last week, when injuries to his glute and hamstring sidelined him from practice and for the first preseason game. Coach Tom Coughlin concurred: "He's behind, no doubt." Ross said he can play catch-up, the same way he chased Richards through their grueling springtime workouts. "When we work out together," he said, "I've got to be on my horse."

I was ok with it. He's already set himself up to be controversial so that's what they want from him. But he's right, Eli has to show more leadership and he's better off that tiki is gone.

Let's C some D

Obviously, they don't watch game film.