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He wouldn't be in this conditioning program. The only program that's possibly worse than Coughlin's is the one they have in San Diego.

La'el Collins and Forrest Lamp would sure look pretty good right now, huh?

Apparently not much because Nicks was never the same player again.

That's true, but we've been saying this about the O-line the past two preseasons and they've been awful in the regular season too. These don't look like assignment errors, they're being out-physicaled.

JR YOU STOOPID IMGRATE SIGN KAEPERNICK NOW!!!!

That's what my wife says to her friends about me!

Nice to see The Human Turnstile Matt McCants is still kicking around the league.

Sounds more like Chik-Fill-Gay.

Munson looks pretty decent. Reminds me of Nick Greisen.

Yeah! That same CB also made him gimp around on it for the next 14 weeks!

This offense is horrible.

This O-line is a bunch of 300 lb vaginas.

Giants offensive looks to be in midseasin form!

I actually thought that this past year. Hope Eli doesn't get killed this season.

I thought he was much better than Flowers, but two games is a pretty small sample size.

Thank God we didn't waste a 6th round pick on that bum La'el Collins. This offense doesn't go without Geremy Davis running those fly routes for us.

Dude was a backup linebacker on a 2-14 team that they determined wasn't worth keeping. How good was he really going to be?

I said it when we got him... he's a bum. Had one good game (against us) in his entire career and we gave him much more than he was worth. Dumb signing that doesn't really give you much more than JaQuain Williams.

If there wasn't two years of sub-average LT play I might be inclined to agree with Temp. Unfortunately, Flowers hasn't shown he can be a quality NFL tackle. I hope the light goes on for him but this is why you don't try and scrape by with the poor players you have in the offseason. On the plus side, Devin Taylor should be an awesome fifth DE and Dalvin Tomlinson should be awesome in 2018.

Apparently another bad day of practice. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bigblueview.com/platform/amp/2017/8/14/16145324/ny-giants-training-camp-aug-14-practice-takeaways-ereck-flowers-owa-odighizuwa-more

When you have a terrible OL and do nothing to improve it, there's a great chance your line will be terrible again.

I didn't see the game, but can someone confirm that we still have the third-and-long giveup draw? The one we run four times a game every preseason and are told "we're just trying stuff out" but still makes its way into the game plan every week?

What I'm saying is that several players in the league have done things that are arguably far more harmful and loathsome but there didn't seem to be any public outcry over it. Zeke Elliott will play again in six weeks.

Wish it was Valentino Blake being waived.