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Sure hung around for three seasons too many though huh?

Exactly. You'd need to find somebody desperate that also thinks they're just one piece away or has a slew of injuries at CB. Not likely I admit.

Maybe it's time for a fire sale. DRC is set to be a free agent... shop him for a 4th to a contender? Too bad, he's been a really good player for us. Way better than advertised.

McAdouche never misses the opportunity to throw a player under the bus, huh? It's about to get real ugly.

I don't give a fuck if he's actually pissing on the field and cries a river every single ballgame. That guy is the ONLY reason we've been competitive the past few years. He IS the offense. Our team is likely to finish in the bottom-5 in total offense now that he's out for the season. People can talk about Antonio Brown and Julio Jones all they want and those guys are special players for sure (the former is also a legitimate asshole) but show me another top-5 receiver that has a WORSE supporting cast than Odell. Stick him on a team with Martavis Bryant and Le'Veon Bell and he's probably pulling in 2K yards every season. Yeah, those antics are annoying, but show me the time OBJ has called out Eli for missing him on a pass. Find the quote where he bitched that he didn't get the ball enough. Where has he called out Ben McAdoofus for a shitty game plan or the O-line for getting his QB killed back there? The guy is a good teammate. He has lots to bitch about but keeps his mouth shut. Plus, he's gotten in trouble with the law zero times... can all-world WR and NFL Today star Randy Moss say that? For the production he's had on this sad-sack offense, I'll deal with kicking nets and idiot TD celebrations any day of the week.

Two years ago many of us said, "blow it all up" which meant getting rid of Reese, Coughlin, and crew. We got rid of one of those guys to "keep continuity" and our team had one season that was pretty good and are having one that might be disastrous. It might get turned around... but if not, I think you clean sweep everything. "New offense, new defense, everything" isn't too much to ask if your team quits on you and the old personalities all suck. Again, that hasn't happened yet. But if we're staring at 2-14 come January, you blow it all up... you don't just change the tires.

Uh... we didn't set the record last year. We won't set it this year. Again, when Wellman's program sets the record for three straight years and/or finishes in the bottom third every year, or he gets his coach canned from two franchises, we can have this discussion. Or you can believe in Santa Claus, fairies, and twenty years of inexplicable bad luck with injuries on your team. What's Jerry Palmieri doing these days? You mean to say that nobody snatched up that incredible conditioning guy? Boy, that's weird.

Could not possibly disagree more. Bring in a new GM, let him pick HIS coach and draft HIS players, with the realization that you'll probably suck for a minimum of 3 years. We just tried the "change things at the periphery" and our team is on its way to a top-five pick. Pretty much any GM worth his salt will want to pick his coach, and I don't want to promote Marc Ross or some other front office schlub to blow our once-in-a-decade top draft pick.

This is a great point, and one some of us talked about in the offseason. Get a left tackle, and move Flowers to RT. Suddenly in one move, you've improved two positions. Get an NFL-caliber guard. Pair them with the average Richburg and slightly above-average Pugh and now you have a serviceable line. Or you can insist Flowers is a good LT, give 5 million dollars to John Jerry, and hope your seventh-round pick from two years ago works out. Too late for this now with our only 2 decent interior linemen likely out the door next season, but it would have been a good plan.

I think the Seahawks did, but he left without a contract.

Not just that... we have one LB under contract and one interior O-lineman. Does ANYBODY want Reese and his wonderful eye for those two positions determining who plays there for the next four years?

Exactly. When Aaron Wellman sets the record for man games lost for three seasons in a row, we can have this conversation.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/10/10/report-branden-albert-to-visit-giants/ Jerry Reese is a fucking asshole.

Who's that old bitch to the left of the coach?

Yep. Good thing we got that Dalvin Tomlinson instead of a LB like Zach Cunningham. Our LBs once again look great in coverage with tight ends eating them up for 80 yards and a TD every week. In fact, I think we should switch our name to "The New York---Jason Witten... Touchdown!"

The really strange thing is... since I've started coaching youth football, I feel really disconnected from the Giants. It used to be the Giants were "my" team, but now I feel like those kids are "my" team and the Giants are a team I take a passing interest in. Also, I love going to Dartmouth games. 4-0 baby! Those games are so much fun and everything football should be, instead of what the NFL has made it.

I guess that depends on your definition of "win."

I actually like this move. Both of those guys showed promise in the past. Neither will replace the guys we had but might be OK fill ins for a few weeks.

Unless the Giants "promote from within" I think most GMs want to pick their own guy to be head coach.

I've heard they're really only tied to the JPP and Vernon contracts next season, though I'm not sure that's actually true (I heard it on a fan podcast). Honestly though... shit running defense aside... JPP looks like JPP. Ever since the year Coughlin played him 4 weeks removed from back surgery, he's been a slow starter that doesn't really do anything till week 8. He's also always injured and has two right now. He might turn it on or might get injured and be on IR for the last 6 games. That's JPP.

I'd love if we could followed the Eli formula. Round 1: franchise QB Round 2: mauling, road grading guard Not Reese making the picks.

I think the only way you bring him in is as a stopgap, not because you think he'll contribute much. I think it's just probably REALLY hard to teach four new guys an offense in six days,and at least Cruz could be brought up to speed quickly. Of course, this assumes Marshall and Shepard are going to miss time as well, and Rudolph is unavailable or not ready.

I said this same thing two offseasons ago but yeah. When you go half-assed you get half-assed... or in our case, worse. http://www.sportswrath.com/index.php?showtopic=50836&view=&hl=&fromsearch=1

Honestly, he might be worth bringing in as just a body while we teach the other three replacements the offense. Either way our season is totally fucked, so what the hell.

What I got outta that is he's no mid-season fire. If this team quits on him he's gone, but it'll be in January.