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The Jabrill Peppers robbery is the fact that we got him, a first, and a third for a guy who's gonna be on IR by week 8!

A second for Rosen is better than anything you'll get at that point in the draft. If we could get something like Rosen and a 4th back I'd be ecstatic.

Honestly, it should be reviewable. I'm still pissed at Flipper Anderson.

Current onsides kicks have about an eight percent success rate. Down from about 20 percent. It looks like a fifteen yard pass has a better than 20% success rate. This is a dumb idea.

I'd be ok with it if it wasn't a 15 yard play. Roughly double what an average Kansas City passing play goes for. Make it 25 yards or more, now we're talking... that's "pulling the goalie."

The thing is, an onside kick is very difficult because no matter how well it's planned, the oblong nature of the ball makes it difficult to recover. Allowing a regular play instead is defeating the very purpose of the onside kick play, which is "we're going to try this last-ditch effort to allow us to score again but it's down to how the ball bounces." You get to carefully plan how you want to approach the play as opposed to it being more or less chance that you continue your drive. This is a horrible rule.

I'm with Drizz, you seem to see a lot more 4th-and-15 completed passes than onside kick recoveries. I can only think of two times in my 35+ years as a Giants fan that I saw our team recover our own onsides kick. Make it a 4th-and-30 and maybe we're talking. 15 yards? You see plays that long ten times a game.

I wouldn't do it.

He was excellent depth. Too bad.

I don't feel like this is a one, two year thing with Shurmur and Gettleman. They're trying to build a program here. It takes time. Barring a total collapse I think those two get four years minimum.

I was thinking that too, but someone pointed out that the last two or so years he was here he was really hurt and frequently had to be taken out of the lineup by the 4th quarter.

In fairness, Chad Wheeler is so high in that picture that he didn't know he was playing on offense.

LOL dude just made 4 million. Seriously, I should have been born 6'4" and 320 lbs. I'm in the wrong career.

Hmm. Well, probably not now.

That Dan Snyder is pretty quick!

That's true, but their big-money players (Mayfield, Chubb, Garrett, etc) are all still on their rookie deals. The problem will be in 3-4 years when they have to start paying some of those guys, but right now they've got a nice window similar to how the Seahawks were before they had to start paying all their star players.

Aj Brown: a shittier version of AJ Green.

Did you guys know that Ereck Flowers is an above-average tackle? It's true!

They said he could cover the TE in the slot which would be a very welcome change.

Yeah he was clearly just as good after he ran on that fucked up foot all year. In fact that was when his career took off.

Pretty sure I can hear George Kittle laughing from here.

Reminds me a lot of Nicks. Would look awesome on the team unless he gets a foot injury and Shurmur decides to play him for an entire season anyway instead of resting him, ruining the remainder of his career.

I was gonna make a separate thread for this but I guess I'll just ask it here. Since the Giants have a ton of draft capital leading up to April, what would you be willing to give up for the following QBs, should they become available in a trade? 1. David Carr 2. Josh Rosen 3. Russell Wilson

Yeah for someone who was supposed to be 4th CB he wasn't awful.

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